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Any manufacturer wants to put his brainchild on public display. Moreover, if we are talking about such a prestigious Paris car showroom... The manufacturers of the Skoda concern in the distant 1996 presented a new car octavia... It was a kind of exam: the Czech concern completely passed under the flags of its senior friend Volkswagen. Octavia was their firstborn, completely new model, made on the VW Golf platform. Automobile Skoda Octavia(Skoda Octavia), thus, claimed to be transferred to a "heavier weight category" in a higher class, where there were no cars produced at Czech factories for half a century.
This appeared in 1996 new Skoda Oktavia at the Paris Motor Show
Great hopes were pinned on the updated production, implying that German pedantry and the famous quality of the automatic will migrate to Skoda cars... Manufacturers hoped that the car would be popular with the middle class, since the price was very tempting.
The company's management was eagerly awaiting customer response. The car enthusiasts greeted the new product warmly, which justified the expectations of the manufacturers. Indeed, the new Skoda Octavia had a better build quality. A prospective buyer could be pleased with a hatchback with sedan-like features - a combination of styles.
However, not everything worked out as we would like. The first cars, like children, were constantly sick. The central locking was constantly naughty, the trunk button stuck. There were obvious flaws in the plastic joining in the cabin. We must pay tribute to the German designers, who promptly, literally on the fly under warranty, corrected flaws, gradually removing the "growing pains". Only those defects that arose during the operation of the Octavia remained.
The look of the Octavia has undoubtedly become more modern and attractive. But what about "childhood illnesses"?
A few words about the positive aspects
On the "roads" of the post-Soviet space, the car showed itself with positive side, having withstood all the "delights" of the harsh (including) Russian road reality. There are a number of positive aspects that simply cannot be kept silent.
- Already in standard configuration Skoda Octavia comes with an engine undercover. The protection is not made of plastic, but is reliable - steel. Let's be objective: many models come without any underbody protection at all.
- Power units start up normally, in principle, do not sneeze, do not complain about the quality of our fuel. In this case, the service life of the candles passes full cycle... The Germans do not install platinum, but install simple ones, for which the service life does not exceed 30,000 km. After a specified period, they must be replaced.
Let's "dig deeper" in the "patient" engines, look for flaws
What's good is the selection of units presented by the Skoda Octavia. But experienced "comrades" do not recommend buying a car that runs on EXACTLY 1.8-liter gasoline, not turbocharged. It is he who, however, like the power unit, with a volume of 2.0 liters, often has ESU problems ( electronic system control) by the motor, which does not always start at the first turn of the ignition key. Either a sensor, possibly the control unit itself, could be the culprit unstable work engine. But this does not make it easier for the car owner, on the contrary. He will have to get out of his own pocket a tidy sum of "American money" about $ 1000-$ 1300. This is not taking into account the cost of the service station itself. Additional disadvantages of a non-turbo 1.8-liter engine - it does not start well in winter. However, there are complaints about the 2.0-liter engine, which does not start up in the heat at the snap of a finger - the obvious overheating of the unit affects. He can also be capricious, does not turn on well in wet weather. Poor-quality domestic fuel is also called an obstacle.
Basically, the Octavia was purchased with a 1.6-liter power unit with a capacity of 101 liters. In favor were 1.8-liter turbocharged engines 150 l / forces. By the way, they performed well on VW Passat. It was the 1.8-liter engine that offered a lot of options for the amateur to "conjure" over iron. Tuning of this unit was approved by German comrades, offering a lot of industrial options for improving not only the power unit, but the car as a whole. Tuned engines start up much better than their serial counterparts. We think that with the advent of new notes in the operation of the motor, their owners also start (in the good sense of the word).
The minimum tuning price is $ 800. This includes replacing the brains of the powertrain control system. Engine power soars to 190 horses! Statistics say that 20% of all sales around the world come from a turbocharged engine that runs on diesel fuel. This is a 1.9 liter diesel engine with 110 l / forces.
Cars with such an engine have taken root in our country. It is surprising that this diesel unit uses our diesel fuel with pleasure, without complaining about the quality. Let's say more, the specialists of Bosch on fuel equipment, unfortunately, we have to admit that at least 50% of the fuel system- these are factory faults, not our solarium. The car starts up in the cold almost always from the first turn.
For those who are just getting ready to buy a Skoda Octavia, we want to say that it is not worthwhile to independently change the oil in the engine. The weak point of the Octavia is the thread in the drain hole. If you do not want to get about $ 90 for the oil pan (plus $ 40 it costs to replace it), then it is better to leave the responsibilities on the shoulders of experienced workshop technicians. Moreover, they are familiar with this problem.
The Skoda Octavia line of power units has 1.8-liter engines that consume gasoline and a 1.9-liter unit that runs on diesel, turbocharged with an all-wheel drive transmission. What are the malfunctions, disadvantages of these motors? They have one thing in common: not a very reliable control unit. From him you can expect "dirty tricks" after about 2000 km of run. We regret to inform you that the owner of an unhappy car needs to pay $ 60 for repairs, plus the control unit will cost $ 400. In the future, owners of a car with an all-wheel drive version need to regularly change the oil in the clutch according to the service book. These units are not deprived of a certain tenderness: they are capricious, they do not always start up perfectly.
Disadvantages of the transmission
Manual transmissions in the general mass of troubles are not presented to car owners of Octavia. Although, if you do not adjust the tension of the cable, which is the connecting link between the gearshift lever and the gearbox after the recommended 15,000 km, problems will arise. All the more, there is no need to save such an operation is only $ 15.
The sore spot for the Skoda Octavia, equipped with a turbocharged gasoline engine and manual transmission, is the clutch... Everything is in the hands of the driver, his driving style. For the same reason, the suspension and its elements can complete their "working path" ahead of schedule.
A warning for "extremists": the shock absorbers and rear silent blocks designed to cover 80,000 km / 50,000 km, respectively, will not withstand a frantic race.
Weak seat Skoda Octavia equipped with independent suspension are traditionally stabilizer struts. The lack of strength of the struts affected not only Skoda. They are inherent in almost all modern cars.
Disadvantages were found in the operation of the control unit, which is responsible for opening the doors, including the trunk. The cost of the work is about $ 40. On some models, the ignition switch is stuck. The weak link is the ventilation and heating system (deflectors). Disadvantages are considered to be weak muffler fasteners. The rubber bands on which it is attached stubbornly refuse to serve for more than one year.
Station wagons suffer from closing the fifth door - the trunk. Badly especially in winter, the trunk lock opens, with which you need to tinker decently. Although it is recognized by everyone that the trunk of the Octavia is roomy and there are no problems with the transportation of the necessary things.
As an option, it is proposed to install an additional roof rack. But in this case, gasoline consumption will increase slightly. Difficulties may also arise when removing additional trunk installed on the roof. We are talking about constant pollution, the lock is difficult to open, you must admit there are obvious shortcomings.
Conflicting information comes from the owners of Czech cars. Some say that the trunk lock is difficult to open. Others, on the contrary, argue that the trunk lock latch opens spontaneously. The tailgate doors do not fit snugly against the body itself. A weak gasket from this on bumps and uneven roads, the tailgate makes a constant noise and rattles. The driver flashes like a match, starts on trifles. We think that there is nothing worse than listening to where the vibration and noise in your car is coming from. Agree that it is this noise that distracts the driver from driving.
If you adhere to the manufacturer's recommendation, the following words and phrases will disappear in a conversation with colleagues: the car will not start, the engine jams. You will not list the disadvantages and bend your fingers at the word cons. Take care, take care of your car, it will reciprocate with you - long work of all components and assemblies.
14.07.2016
Second generation Skoda Octavia A5 — was produced from 2008 to the end of 2012. Thanks to the large and expressive headlights, the car received the nickname "Big-eyed", although it must be admitted that many people give her their sympathy not only for beautiful eyes. Like any used car, this car has its advantages and disadvantages, about them we'll talk today.
Advantages and disadvantages of the second generation Skoda Octavia A5
Traditionally, the Skoda Octavia is presented in three modifications: this is the "liftback" which is the most widely used in our country; "Combi station wagon", as well as its pseudo off-road version called "Scout", which differs from the usual station wagon by an additional plastic body kit around the entire perimeter of the body and increased ground clearance. In general, as the operating experience has shown, the car body has good corrosion resistance. To the disadvantages body parts include front foglights that can fog up. In addition, daytime running light bulbs have a small resource, on average they work no more than a year. The cause of the breakdown is the burnout of the contact group, and the base cover also becomes unusable, so you have to change the bulbs together with the base. The tailgate lock is also not reliable, the limit switch often fails in it, for this reason the lighting lamp does not light up inside the trunk.
In the course of operation, problems with the electric windows were identified, it is not uncommon when trying to raise the glass, the owners are faced with the fact that the glass begins to rise, and then itself goes down. This happens due to contamination of the guides, and in order to prevent the motor from burning out, the thermal protection is triggered, the system throws the glass down. This problem can be easily eliminated, experts recommend cleaning the guides from dirt and lubricating them with silicone. The owners of the Skoda Octavia A5 quite often criticize the cabin air conditioning system, or rather its compressor, which turned out to be very unreliable. And also the button for opening the central lock, over time the contact group wears out in it, people begin to press harder on the button, and as a result, it stops working and fails.
Engines
The line of motors intended for the second generation of the Skoda Octavia A5 has been noticeably updated, especially gasoline engines... In this version, new engines of the "TSI" family with turbocharging and a system direct injection fuel, volume 1.2, 1.4 and 1.8 liters, the last engine replaced the familiar two-liter "FSI" from the pre-styling version, but the first two were intended only for European markets and are rare. Have diesel version appeared new engine volume of 1.6 liters, but cars with such an engine were not officially supplied to us. Rest power units who installed on this car are well known from the pre-styling version.
As domestic operating experience has shown, most of the problems are caused by TSI engine a volume of 1.8 liters, quite often the owners describe the problem in their reviews increased consumption oils. For example, during active operation, the consumption can be 500 - 800 grams per thousand kilometers. In addition, if you drive with a low oil level, the hydraulic chain tensioner may fail, because of this, the chain may slip along the crankshaft gears, this will lead to a fatal meeting of the valves with the pistons. Owners of the Skoda Octavia A5 with this type of engine often note problems with the pump (loss of tightness and increased noise from robots), solenoid valves turbine control, also often fails fuel pump high pressure. However, it should be noted that the manufacturer was aware of this problem, and in the middle of 2010 upgraded this engine by eliminating all weak spots, therefore, it is recommended to select versions that have been released since the second half of 2010.
Transmission
The choice of gearboxes designed for the Skoda Octavia A5 is quite diverse; five- and six-speed mechanics, a six-speed automatic, as well as a DSG robot are available for the car. As operating experience shows, the most problems are caused by a robotic transmission, which are manifested by characteristic jerks during switching from first to second gear and engaging reverse. Experienced owners recommend reflashing the electronic unit control, if this procedure does not solve the problem, then you will have to change the faulty mechatronics unit, or the worn out clutch package. Mechanical and automatic transmission serve without any complaints. Is that it is possible to criticize a little the mechanics that were installed in tandem with diesel engines, with a run of about 150,000 km, the dual-mass flywheel begins to crumble, this malfunction is manifested by a characteristic crunch and knock during gear changes.
Suspension Skoda Octavia A5
Structurally, the Skoda Octavia A5 suspension is no different from the pre-styling version, a MacPherson-type suspension is installed in front, and a multi-link at the rear, stabilizers are installed on both axles lateral stability... A serviceable suspension will provide this car with a fairly good energy capacity, as well as good stability and handling. The only thing to remember when choosing the charged version of the RS (equipped with sport shock absorbers and low profile tires) is that it will be quite tough, but it also has excellent stability and handling.
First of all, in the front suspension, the rear bushings of the front levers fail, this happens with a mileage of 80,000 km. The stabilizer struts nurture 100,000 km each, the front silent blocks run more than 140,000 km, and ball joints up to 200,000 kilometers. Although there are often difficulties with maintenance, over time the metal bolts of the rear silent blocks fastening to the aluminum subframe stick tightly, and they easily break when unscrewed. The rear multi-link, bushings and struts also serve well. rear stabilizer more than 100,000 km serve, 120 - 150 thousand rubber bands of the rear breakup levers go. Serve well and wheel bearings, but when you need to replace them, you will have to fork out, since they need to be changed along with the hub.
Bottom line.
It won the hearts of many pragmatic motorists for its good functionality, practicality, rather attractive appearance and, in general, not bad reliability.
Advantages:
- Nice design.
- Sturdy and comfortable undercarriage.
- Low fuel consumption.
- Roomy interior and trunk.
Disadvantages:
- Unreliable DSG transmission.
- Increased oil consumption.
- Unreliability of salon equipment.
If you are or were the owner of this car brand, please share your experience, indicating the strengths and weak sides auto. Perhaps it is your review that will help others to choose boo automobile.
Skoda Octavia of the third generation under the A7 index is the sales leader in the golf class on Russian market... Selling Better Than Volkswagen jetta, Toyota corolla, Kia cerato, Hyundai elantra and other representatives of the C-class.
This car is loved for its modern appearance, thoughtful interior design, powerful and economical motors, as well as a roomy and functional trunk. Simply put - Octavia looks great, rides fast, it is comfortable and spacious inside.
Skoda Octavia A7. Photo - drive2.ru
The perfect car? I would not rush to answer this question in the affirmative. Not everything is as smooth as it seems at first glance. Like any other car, the Octavia has its weaknesses and problems that will be discussed in this article.
1) DSG-7... Many car enthusiasts have heard of problems robotic boxes how they break, require repair and, of course, financial investments. Octavia did not bypass this problem.
The seven-speed DSG-7 robot, indexed DQ200, has undergone a deep modernization after 2014. However, even on these models, released after 2014, the mechatronics and clutches often fail. This usually happens at 70-100,000 kilometers.
In the photo - DSG-7 DQ200
And on cars of 2013, owners have to meet with such a problem more often. There mechatronics and clutch die every 40-60,000 km. However, if you installed upgraded parts, then their resource will be greater.
By the way, even for cars manufactured before 2014, the manufacturer gave a 5-year warranty or 150,000 km of run. And on the model from 2014 - a warranty of only 2 years.
The cost of a new clutch is up to 30,000 rubles, mechatronics - from 50,000 rubles. Work - 10-15,000 rubles. And this is not from official dealers.
Therefore, before buying an Octavia with a DSG robot, be sure to diagnose the box from an authorized dealer. They will determine exactly how long she has left to live.
2) Turbocharged engines 1.4 TSI CHPA (140 HP), 1.4 TSI CZDA, CZEA (150 HP and 1.8 TSI CJSA; CJSB (180 HP). These are high-torque and economical engines. For example, the 150 HP version with the DSG robot accelerates to the first hundred in just 8.1 seconds, and average consumption fuel is 5.4 liters per 100 kilometers. This is according to the passport, in practice, about 7 liters on average. Whatever one may say, this excellent performance for a family and practical car.
But there is one caveat under the name, or rather its actuator (pressure regulator). It can fail on almost any run, most often after 70,000 km. Official dealer often claims that the actuator cannot be replaced separately and that a complete turbocharger must be purchased. The price of the new turbine is 116,000 rubles. You can find a used one with a working actuator.
But it's worth noting that some dealers help owners purchase the actuator separately. The price is about 13-15,000 rubles. Some of the owners independently repair the actuator.
3) Aspirated oil oil 1.6 MPI (110 HP). It would seem that a naturally aspirated engine without a turbine should be simple and problem-free. But not in this case. Owners have to add 300-400 ml of oil per 1000 km of run. The manufacturer is not going to fix this problem in any way and indicates in the operating instructions that, depending on the driving style and operating conditions, oil consumption can be up to 0.5 liters per 1000 km.
There is a nuance in which the oil consumption increases - this is driving in traffic jams. If you drive mainly on the highway, then you will have to add no more than 1 liter per 10,000 km of run, and when driving in traffic jams, 2, or even 3 liters of oil.
Some owners claim that when filling with oil with a viscosity of 0W30, the oil burner passes.
At the same time, the 110-horsepower aspirated engine is really reliable. Many taxi companies in large cities use Octavia with this engine and the mileage there reaches 200-300,000 km without major repairs.
Despite its weaknesses, the Skoda Octavia A7 continues to be the leader in the C-class. On secondary market very liquid, loses little in price and sells quickly. Apparently, those who buy Octavia know what they are doing and its undoubted advantages overlap the disadvantages.
Skoda Octavia second generation (index A5) is extremely popular in the aftermarket. Her trump cards are excellent driving performance, comfortable interior and huge trunk. For nine years of production (from 2004 to 2013), the design of the car has changed more than once, and seriously. Therefore, different malfunctions statistics have recorded a lot. Here are the most important ones.
1. Chips in the paint
This problem applies not only to Octavia of any model year, but also to most other models of the Volkswagen concern. The body metal is well galvanized and rusts badly only after an illiterate repair. But the paint does not hold on to it in the best way, often peeling off in large pieces. First of all, the hood, sills, wheel arches and places where moldings are installed are affected.
What to do
It is better to tint the places of chips: for some time galvanized steel resists corrosion without it, but sooner or later the chip will begin to rust. And the places most vulnerable to flying stones (for example, the hood and sills) should be protected with a special film.
2. Body fittings
The Octavia has other body problems as well. More precisely, with its equipment. After several years of operation, locks (primarily on the driver's door) and wipers may fail - as windshield and rear, if installed.
What to do
The windshield wipers sour from moisture and dirt getting into the mechanism - if the wipers began to move more slowly on the glass, you need to disassemble the unit, clean and lubricate. Problems with locks or window regulators are more often associated with a broken wiring in the harness between the body and the door. It is worth checking it periodically and repairing it at the first sign of damage.
3. Heater fan
The stove fan can make noise already after 60-70 thousand km - it seems to be a trifle, but very annoying. So repairs cannot be avoided.
What to do
A new fan, together with its replacement, will cost the owner about 10 thousand rubles. They say that the craftsmen have learned to change only the bearings in the motor: it is they who make the noise. It turns out much cheaper, but hardly more reliable.
4. Timing chain
Over the years of production, the Octavia A5 has gone through a transition from atmospheric engines to turbocharged ones. The former are not as powerful, but reliable. But the second - as necessary. And the trouble with turbo engines is common - weak chains Timing belts, which stretched up to 100 thousand kilometers, and sometimes required replacement at 50 thousand.
What to do
The main thing is not to delay the repair. If the tensioner has chosen its own course (for its control, the engines have a special hole with a plug), the stretched chain can jump on the sprockets. This usually happens when the motor is started - and leads to it overhaul due to the fact that the pistons met the valves.
Over the years, Volkswagen has upgraded its turbo-powered drives - the latest generation chains and tensioners are more reliable.
5. Oil consumption
The malfunction is typical for large-volume turbo engines - 1.8 and 2 liters. For them, by 100 thousand km, the waste of oil can exceed 1 liter per 1000 kilometers! Because of this, the engine is actively coking, which, in turn, leads to a drop in oil pressure, wear of camshafts and liners.
What to do
Use only oil with the appropriate Volkswagen Group approvals and change it more often - every 7–7.5 thousand km. The root cause of the malfunction is considered to be the unsuccessful design of the pistons and piston rings on the "second generation" turbo engines (namely, these were installed on the A5 generation). If the oil consumption has increased, it is impossible to delay the repair - otherwise its cost from the initial 90-100 thousand rubles may triple.
In 2011 Volkswagen finalized piston group these engines, and their tendency to "oil consumption" has become lower.
6. Pressurization
Another problem common to all turbo engines is the turbine, which stops delivering the required pressure. Sometimes this happens on a mileage of up to 100 thousand km.
What to do
Fortunately, in most cases the turbocharger itself is not to blame (and those who are unlucky will have to pay about 60 thousand rubles for its replacement): it usually serves 150-200 thousand km. More often the less expensive bypass valve fails. Volkswagen, by the way, did not stand aside here either: now it offers a more reliable repair kit for the turbocharger.
7. DSG
Octavia A5 is one of the first models of the concern, on which a preselective "robot" was installed. So its owners learned about all the "childhood diseases" of the unit that arose on the run of 100, 80, or even 50 thousand km - about the rapid wear of the clutches, failures of the control system (mechatronics), breakdown of the shift forks ...
What to do
DSG repair will cost several tens of thousands of rubles, depending on the scale of the malfunction. In order for the box to serve longer, it is necessary to handle it more carefully: it does not like the creeping mode of traffic jams and abrupt starts.
Many buyers of Octavia solve the problem radically, choosing earlier copies and versions with a classic "automatic". Although in the secondary market, such cars are more expensive. Hydromechanics is really more reliable, although it also sometimes breaks down - and its repair will not cost less. And DSG also has one advantage over the "automatic": the state of the "robot" can be assessed before buying using computer diagnostics.
8. "Mechanics"
Some buyers, frightened of problems with turbo engines and DSG, opts for the simplest version of the car - with a naturally aspirated 1.6-liter engine. It is really reliable and serves up to 300 thousand km, but on condition timely replacement timing belt and pump. But the 5-speed manual transmission paired with it loses in the resource of the more advanced 6-speed, requiring repairs up to 150 thousand km.
What to do
The weak point of this box is the shaft bearings: they wear out and begin to buzz. You should not tolerate unnecessary noise, because faulty bearings can damage other parts as well. And then you will have to pay for repairs much more than the minimum required 60 thousand rubles.
