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Replacing the oil in the mechanical part S Tronic. Help for robotic checkpoint VAG (DSG, S-Tronic). When and what you need to change in the transmission S-Tronic

Provides oil replacement services in the S-Tronic gearbox.

Briefly about S-Tronic

S-Tronic is robotic, manufacturers themselves call it automatic with sports accent, box dSG transmissions (Direct Shift Gearbox) from the German car concern Vag., installed on audi cars, in particular, Audi A3, Audi A4, Audi A5, Audi A7, Audi Q5 and others. The system received such a symbolic name, because all automatic CP for Audi is designated using the word -tronic. Technically, it is based on a six-speed mechanical transmissionA feature of which is the presence of two clips and direct gear shifting.

Do I need to change the oil in s-tronic?

In the six-speed gearbox DSG-6, oil circulates throughout the internal volume. Its discs are gradually abrade, and their smallest particles gradually pollute the oil. A mechanical cleaning filter present in the oil system is also contaminated with time. That is why oil, as well as oil filter Be sure to change periodically. After all, the service life of the aggregate directly depends on the quality of the oil.

When and what should be changed in the transmission of S-Tronic?

In the gearbox S-Tronic there are two filters. The first of them is internal. Its replacement is made together with the pallet laying when it is removed. The second is an external, located on the cooling highway (in cars until 2010, it is represented by a pressure line with a filter). Ideal when both filters are changing.

As for oils, they are also two. One of them is present in front of the box, mechatronics and clutch. Specialists recommend producing it to replace every sixty thousand mileage kilometers along with filters. The second is the oil of the mechanical rear and front Differential. It is believed that it is designed for the entire service period of the node. Some owners also change it, but much less often than the first.

What oil is poured into s-tronic?

Classical transmission fluid S-Tronic gearbox will not suit. It uses original ATF oil for DSG.

Features of oil replacement in S-Tronic gearbox

Despite the fact that the oil change is not a technically complex procedure, it is better to carry out it with professional specialists in a specialized service center. Only there will be able to ensure high quality of work and adherence to all the subtleties of the operation.

Replacing the oil begins with a plum of old working fluid. The pallet is dismantled and carefully examined for a precipitate. Then he is cleared. It is replaced by its gasket. Filter change. With the help of special equipment poured new original oil. Only the use of professional equipment allows you to achieve full replacement Oils and compliance with the required volume of fluid. After the assembly, the oil level and system operation in all modes is checked. The process of adapting the box to a new oil is also carried out using special dealer equipment.

If you are going to buy or already you are the owner of a car with a robotic preselative PPP DSG. or S-TronicThat, for sure, already persistent about the different sides of these aggregates, both positive and negative. It is impossible to definitely say that DSG. - Evil and it is necessary to avoid cars with this type of checkpoint.

DSG (from it. DirektschaltGetriebee or eng. Direct Shift Gearbox) - a family of preselective robotic transmissions with double clutches installed on Cars of Concern Vag (Audi, Volkswagen, Skoda, Seat). In general understanding, users are accustomed to sharing these boxes on 6-speed (DSG6) and 7-speed (DSG7), as well as on gearbox with dry and wet clutches. The classification is generally true, but there are a number of nuances that should be considered when choosing a car, since not everything is as easy as it may seem.

How is S-Tronic Audi different from DSG Volkswagen / Skoda / SEAT? - Nothing, with the exception of longitudinally located boxes 0B5, 0CK / 0CL and 0CJ, which are installed only on AUDI.

Also you could hear the scary word of mechatronic (Mechatronic) is the same hydraulicone. What are mechatronics and what do they differ? Mechatronics is an electron-hydraulic control unit of the KP. Perhaps the most important, but at the same time the most unreliable knot throughout the transmission. Each DSG type has its own type of mechatronics. Mechatronics OT different types DSG are not interchangeable. Moreover, for some types of DSG there are several generations of mechatronics, which also differ from each other. And for each type and generation of mechatronics there are many versions of the software designed for various engines and different gear ratios in KP. In some cases, the mechatronics of the same type can be reprogrammed (reflash) to install on different cars.

An unambiguous answer to this question, which DSG is more reliable - does not exist. Each DSG has its advantages and disadvantages. The duration of "life" of any DSG in most part depends on the conditions of its operation: all DSG do not like overheating, it usually concerns a DSG with "dry" clutches in which the mechatronics has a separate oil circuit and no cooling. For those who every day for several hours spend in traffic jams, the chances of coming to replace the mechatronics more than those who are mainly driving on the highway. Fans "light", the probability of replacing the clutch and differential, is much higher than those who prefer a quiet ride.

So, there are 7 main variations of DSG robots (including S-Tronic):

1 - DQ200 (0 AM/0CW) DQ200 (dry clutch) ( )

  • LUK production;
  • Withstands the maximum torque of up to 250 nm (front-wheel drive only);
  • Volume of aggregative engines: 1.2 - 1.8 l;
The most problemful and jerk box, especially with powerful motors. A huge number of versions of software and many changes in the box itself. After upgrading 2014. model year The stream of machines in the service repair service was noticeably fell, but not dried completely, unfortunately. It is placed only on the front-wheel drive car with a cross-location of the engine from 2008 to 2013.
0am got on: Audi: A1, A3 (8p - until 2013), TT; VW: Golf 6, Jetta, Polo, Passat, Passat CC, Scirocco, Touran, AMEO; Skoda: Octavia (1Z - until 2013), Yeti, Superb, Fabia, Roomster, Rapid; Seat: Altea, Leon (1P - until 2013), Toledo.
0CW got on:
Audi: A3 (8V - from 2013), Q2; VW: GOLF 7, PASSAT (from 2015), Touran (from 2016), T-Roc; Skoda: Octavia (5e - C 2013), Rapid (diesel from 2013), KAROQ; SEAT: Leon (5F - from 2013).

2 - DQ250 (12E / 0D9) DQ250 (wet clutch) ( )

  • BORG-WARNER production;
  • Withstands the maximum torque to 350 nm (front and four-wheel drive);
  • Volume of aggregative engines: 1.4 - 3.2 l;
A more comfortable and less problemable box. Fewer complaints about it may be associated with its smaller prevalence. Put on powerful and all-wheel drive cars With a cross-location of the engine from 2003 to 2013. A more developed and corrected modification of the box - 0D9, which went to the series since 2013 was also released.
02E Covered on: Audi: A3 (8p - until 2013), TT, Q3; VW: Golf, Passat, Touran, Scirocco, Sharan, Tiguan; Skoda: Octavia (1Z - until 2013), Yeti, Superb; Seat: Altea, Leon (1P - until 2013), Toledo, Alhambra.
0D9 Covered on: Audi: A3 (8V - from 2013), Q2; VW: GOLF 7, PASSAT (from 2015), Touran (from 2016); Skoda: Octavia (5e - C 2013), Kodiaq; Seat: Leon (5F - from 2013), Ateca.

3 - DSG7 (0BT / 0BH / 0DL) DQ500 (wet clutch) ( )

  • LUK production;
  • Withstands the maximum torque up to 600 nm (front and four-wheel drive);
  • Volume of aggregative engines: 2.0 - 2.5 l;
The most simple and comfortable box of all robots. It is placed on powerful and all-wheel drive cars with a transverse engine location since 2009 (0BT / 0BH). C 2016, the updated modification of 0DL went to the series.
0BT / 0BH Covered on: Audi: Q3, RS3, TTRS; VW: TRANSPORTER / MULTIVAN / CARAVELLE, TIGUAN.
0DL got on: VW: ARTEON, PASSAT (C 2017), Tiguan (from 2016); Skoda: Kodiaq.

4 - DSG7 (0GC) DQ381 (wet clutch) ( )

  • LUK production;
  • Withstands the maximum torque to 420 nm (front and four-wheel drive);
A completely new development that is placed on powerful and all-wheel drive cars with a transverse engine location since 2017. Information on its operation is still very little and talk about problems and statistics early.
0GC got on: Audi: A3 (C 2017), Q2; VW: Arteon, Golf (from 2017), Passat (C 2017), T-Roc; Skoda: Karoq; Seat: Ateca.

5 - DSG7 (S-Tronic) (0B5) DL501 (wet clutch) ( )

  • Joint development of Audi and Borg-Warner;
  • Withstands the maximum torque of up to 550 nm (four-wheel drive);
  • Volume of aggregative engines: 2.0 - 4.2 l;
Quite a problem box, and than more powerful engine - the less problems with it. There were a lot of improvements and, it seems, the complaints became smaller after 2011-2012. It is placed only on all-wheel drive cars with a longitudinal location of the engine since 2008.
0b5 got on: Audi: A4 (up to 2015), A5, A6, A7, Q5, RS4, RS5.

6 - DSG7 (S-Tronic) (0CK) DL382-7F / (0CL) DL382-7Q (wet clutch) ( )

  • New Audi Development;
  • There are two versions for front drive with the letter F at the end and with the letter q for full drive;
  • Volume of aggregative engines: 1.4 - 3.0 l;
So far nothing is known about it in terms of reliability. It is placed on a car with a longitudinal location of the engine since 2013.
0CK / 0CL put on: Audi: A4 (8w - C 2016), A6 (C 2011g), A7 (from 2016), Q5 (from 2013).

7- DSG7 (S-TRONIC) (0CJ) (wet clutch) ( )

  • New Audi Development;
  • Created for a complete drive Ultra Quattro, with an electromechanical coupling;
  • Withstands the maximum torque up to 400 nm;
  • Volume of aggregative engines: 2.0 l;
0CJ was put on: Audi: A4 (8W - C 2016)

In order for you to understand how often what oil and in which volume it is necessary to fill in the DSG (S-Tronic), we led to the table below:

DSG modelOil in the gearbox itselfExtra oilReplacement

DSG-7
DQ200.
0am / 0CW.​

Butter G 052 512.
(1.9 l)​

oil in mechatronics
G 004 000
(1 l)​

Question 001:
Q: What is DSG? What are DSG? What is the difference? What cars are installed on?

A:DSG ( from him. Direktschaltgeetriebe or eng. Direct Shift Gearbox) - a family of preselective robotic transmissions with double clutches installed on Cars of Concern Vag (Audi, Volkswagen, Skoda, Seat).
A type Clutch Engine location Engine volumes Drive unit Moment What cars are installed on which cars
DSG7 0am (DQ200) "Dry" transverse 1.2 -1.8 front 250NM Audi: A1, A3 (8p - until 2013), TT;
VW: Golf6, Jetta, Polo, Passat, Passat CC, Scirocco, Touran, Ameo;
Skoda: Octavia (1Z - until 2013), Yeti, Superb, Fabia, Roomster, Rapid;
Seat: Altea, Leon (1P - until 2013), Toledo.
DSG6 02E (DQ250) "Wet" transverse 1.4 - 3.2 Front / Full 350НМ. Audi: A3 (8p - until 2013), TT, Q3;
VW: Golf, Passat, Touran, Scirocco, Sharan, Tiguan;
Skoda: Octavia (1Z - until 2013), Yeti, Superb;
Seat: Altea, Leon (1P - until 2013), Toledo, Alhambra.
DSG7 0B5 (DL501) "Wet" Longitian 2.0 - 4.2 full 550НМ. Audi: A4 (up to 2015), A5, A6, A7, Q5, RS4, RS5.
DSG7 0BT / 0BH (DQ500) "Wet" transverse 2.0 - 2.5 Front / Full 600НМ. Audi: Q3, RS3, TTRS;
VW: TRANSPORTER / MULTIVAN / CARAVELLE, TIGUAN.
DSG7 0CW (DQ200) "Dry" transverse 1.2 - 1.8 front 250NM Audi: A3 (8V - from 2013), Q2;
VW: Golf7, Passat (from 2015), Touran (from 2016); T-Roc.
Skoda: Octavia (5e - C 2013), Rapid (from 2013), KAROQ, SCALA (from 2019);
SEAT: Leon (5F - from 2013).
DSG6 0D9 (DQ250) "Wet" transverse 1.4 - 2.0 Front / Full 350НМ. Audi: A3 (8V - from 2013), Q2;
VW: Golf7, Passat (from 2015), Touran (from 2016);
Skoda: Octavia (5e - C 2013), Kodiaq;
Seat: Leon (5F - from 2013), Ateca.
DSG7 0DL (DQ500) "Wet" transverse 2.0 Front / Full 600НМ. VW: ARTEON, PASSAT (C 2017), Tiguan (from 2016);
Skoda: Kodiaq.
DSG7 0GC (DQ381) "Wet" transverse 2.0 Front / Full 420НМ. Audi: A3 (C 2017), Q2;
VW: Arteon, Golf (from 2017), Passat (C 2017); T-Roc.
Skoda: Karoq;
Seat: Ateca.
DSG7 0CK (DL382-7F) "Wet" Longitian 1.4 - 3.0 front 400НМ. Audi: A4 (8w - C 2016), A6 (C 2011g), A7 (from 2016), Q5 (from 2013).
DSG7 0CL (DL382-7Q) "Wet" Longitian 2.0 - 3.0 full 400НМ. Audi: A4 (8W - from 2016).
DSG7 0SJ. "Wet" Longitian 2.0 full
(Ulta Quattro, with electromechanical coupling)
400НМ.
Audi: A4 (8W - from 2016).
Looking at the table you can make some simple conclusions:
1. DSG with "dry" clutches, as a rule, are installed on less powerful engines, because Capably "digest" a smaller moment.
2. If you have a four-wheel drive, then you have "wet" clutch.
3. If you have a DSG and the motor "along", then you have Audi :-)
4. Apparently, the age of the legendary full drive Audi Quattro. with the famous Torsen differential, comes to an end.
Question 002:
Q: How to find out which box is installed on my car?
A: Option 1: Connect to the diagnostic device to the car, go to block 02 - KP electronics and read identification data. The first three symbols of the box identifiers and mechatronics denote your box.
For example: 0am 300049H - Seven-step DSG with "dry" clutches of type 0am. Or 02E 300051R - a six-speed DSG with "wet" clutches of type 02E, etc.
Option 2: View by the VIN-code of the car in the Etka spare parts directory.
Option 3: Send a VIN-code of the car to our address, we will check and you will send you the answer.

Question 003:
Q: What S-Tronic for Audi is different from DSG for Volkswagen / Skoda / Seat?
A:
. With the exception of boxes 0B5, 0CK / 0CL and 0CJ that are installed only on Audi.

Question 004:
Q:What oil is filled into DSG?
A:For convenience, we formulated a response in the form of a table:

A type Butter Replacement interval (recommended by the manufacturer)
DSG7 0am (DQ200)
All service life
DSG6 02E (DQ250)
Filling volumes:
up to 6.9l - full refueling
to 5.5l - oil change
Filtering element: 02E 305 051 C
60 000
DSG7 0B5. Oil for KP DSG G 052 529
Up to 7.5l - Full refueling
Up to 6.7l - oil change
Filtering element: 0B5 325 330 A
60 000
DSG7 0BT / 0BH (DQ500) Oil for KP DSG G 052 182
Up to 7.6 - Full refueling
until 6.07 - oil change
Filtering element: 0bh 325 183 B
60 000
DSG7 0CW (DQ200) In the box: Oil KP G 052 512 - 1.9l
In Mezhatronics: Hydraulic oil G 004 000 - 1l
All service life
DSG7 0D9 (DQ250) In the box: oil for KP DSG G 052 182
Filling volumes:
up to 6.9l - full refueling
to 5.5l - oil change
Filtering element: 02E 305 051 C

In distribution: G 052 145 - 0.9l

60 000
DSG7 0DL (DQ500) In the box: oil for KP DSG G 052 182
Filtering element: 0bh 325 183 B

In Distribution: G 052 145
60 000
DSG7 0GC (DQ381) ATF oil: G 055 529 60 000
DSG7 0CK (DL382-7F) ATF: G 055 549 A2
4.35l - Full refueling
3.5l - oil change
60 000
DSG7 0CL (DL382-7Q) ATF: G 055 549 A2
4.35l - Full refueling
3.5l - oil change
MTF: G 055 529 A2 oil - 3.8l
60 000
Question 005:
Q:What is mechatronics?
A:Mechatronics (Mechatronik, Mecchatron, Hylobal, Brain) - Electron-hydraulic control unit KP. Perhaps the most important, but at the same time the most unreliable knot throughout the transmission.

Question 006:
Q:What is the difference between mechatronics?
A:
Each DSG type has its own type of mechatronics. Mechatronics from different types of DSG are not interchangeable. Moreover, for some types of DSG there are several generations of mechatronics, which also differ from each other. And for each type and generation of mechatronics, there are many versions of software designed for various engines and different gear ratios in KP. In some cases, the mechatronics of the same type can be reprogrammed (reflash) to install on different cars. Read more about the firmware you can read.

Question 007:
Q:What DSG is better / safer?
A:
There is no unambiguous answer to this question. Each DSG has its advantages and disadvantages. And the duration of "life" of any DSG largely depends on the conditions of its operation, like:
- Temperature ambient. All DSG does not like overheating, it usually concerns DSG with "dry" clutches in which the mechatronics has a separate oil circuit and no cooling
;
- Movement mode. For those who spend several hours every day in traffic jams, the chances of coming to replace the mechatronics more than those who are mainly driving on the highway on long distances;
- Driving style. Fans of "give an angle" and "light on the traffic light", the probability of getting the replacement of clutch and differential, much higher than those who prefer a quiet ride.

Question 008:
Q: I have a DSG7 0am.Do I need to switch the selector to neutral when you stand on the traffic light or in a traffic jam?
A: No need.
Unlike conventional mechanical KP, in DSG7 0am, the clutch is normally open. And it closes only when the mechatronics begins to push the squeezing rods. When you (or autochold) by pressing the brake hold the car in place, the clutch rods of mechatronics are removed and the clutch is open. Accordingly, no load on the CP or the clutch is not transmitted. In what position does the selector handle - it does not matter.

Question 009:
Q: Over time, jerks appeared when switching transmissions. Previously, the car drove normally, the switch was smooth, but recently There were jerks and shocks when switching transmissions. Is it possible to fix the reprogramming of the ECU of the box (software update)?
A: No, it is impossible. Software cannot with the time "spoil" and serve as the cause of the wrong operation of the CP. If the car previously traveled correctly, and then stopped, then the problem lies in the hardware, and not in the software.
Mechatronics reprogramming can only help if the mechatronics changed and installed a block with incorrect software. You can read more about reprogramming.

Question 010:
Q:How to find out the software version in mechatronics?
Question 011:
Q: DSG7 shift knob is blocked in position P, how to unlock it in order to switchbox in neutral?
A: Brief instructions for unlocking the DSG7 0am selector.


Question 012:
Q: Does the oil change help in Mechatronics DSG7 0am (0CW) to remove "Pinkies" on gear shifts?
A: No, it will not help. Such malfunctions are eliminated by the repair of the hydraulic part of the mechatronics. In the initial stages, adaptation (basic installation) can help, but rather as an exception than the rule.




Question 014:
Q: After replacing the mechatronics DSG7 0am, in the event recorder hangs errors "06247 P1867 - data bus drive no messages from the electronics of the steering column - J527" and "06227 P1853 The data bus is an unreliable message from the ABS control unit". How to remove them?
A:You need to reset information about the installed components (steering wheel switches, electric parking brake, etc.). To do this, you need to make a basic installation on the channel 69. After executing the basic error setting, go from the "constant" state to the "sporadically" state and can be removed.

When using VCDS (VAG-COM, Vasya-Diagnostic, etc.):
"02-KP electronics" -\u003e "Bases. Parameters - 04" -\u003e In the "Group" field, enter the value 69 -\u003e Press "Read".

When using POVAS-PC:
"Self-Diagnosis" -\u003e
"02-electronics KP" -\u003e "006-basic installation"-\u003e In the "Group" field, enter a value of 69 -\u003e Press "Q".

When using POOdis:
"Self-Diagnosis" -\u003e"02-electronics KP" -\u003e"Basic Installation" -\u003eEnter the value of 69 -\u003e Press "Channel Select".

After the basic installation, you should clear the event registrar.


Question 015:
Q:Hoody DSG7 0am M DSG7 0CW - Almost the same transmissions (DQ200 family), is there any difference between mechatronics installed on them?
A:
The main differences are physical and software changes in the electronic control board. In particular, 0CW fees are biting to the car immobilizer system. In more detail about the differences in Mechatronics 0am and 0CW, you can read.

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