February 9, 2017

How expensive are the maintenance of the X Ray with the H4M engine?

If you calculate the cost of maintaining the Lada Ix Rey with the "Nissanov" Motor H4M, it will become clear that they are much more than the holder of the hatchback with the domestic aggregate will incur.

In the environment of fans of AvtoVAZ products, rumors for quite a long time relative to the cost of servicing new models. Especially many questions to the version of Crossover Lada X Rey with a 1.6-liter motor from the Renault Nissan Alliance. Moreover, the passions of passion reached such a peak that it is definitely worth understanding this issue.

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Even in his exceeding the president of the domestic autocontraser, Bu Inge, Andersson tried to be the novelties created with his filing - Lada X Rei and Lada Vesta - had as little as possible with the models produced before this. After all, the products of Vaza did not kick only lazy, as the quality really left much to be desired. Yes, and emotions from cars were not the most rainbow.

And, as it turned out, the Swede managed to break the "traditions", which no one could overcome the years. The new sedan and hatchback can compete in their segment even with leaders in the market, and in some aspects they are noticeably better. The assembly has become an order of magnitude better, no incomprehensible noise and creaks are no longer, and with the handling of cars full order.

Stylish X Rey looks much more attractive than former AvtoVAZ models!

Situation with engines

However, for all this had to pay a large number of imported components, which did not slow down to affect the price. But even more interesting there was a motor situation. A 106-strong, 1.6-liter motor was selected as an engine for Lada Vesta from the very beginning. But under the hood of Xu Ray installed a foreign engine. However, he was known to the Russians on the Alliance models - Nissan Tiida, Nissan Sentra, Nissan Juke, Renault Duster and others.

Technologically, it is highlighted by the presence of a chain drive of the TRW and a block of cylinders from aluminum. Motor deformed up to 110 liters. from. and 150 nm, which guaranteed for Lada X Ray the dynamics at 11.1 seconds. up to hundreds, as well as the maximum current 181 km / h.

110 strong H4M engine.

At the moment, you can buy Lada Xray with such a motor, but you will have to agree exclusively on the mechanical transmission, as well as for a non-alternative configuration "Jubilee". The price of the 110-strong X Reia is 799,000 rubles.

Reviews about the model

AvtoVAZ himself quite highly quotes its own car. In particular, competent adjustment of the chassis, which allows you to actively maneuver. The front subframe and shock absorbers of the gas-filled type plays the latest role here, which provide coated adhesion. The energy intensity of the suspension, in combination with a large road lumen and decent geometric permeability, make it possible not to worry on the village and in the city. And the driver's landing, cozy salon and excellent noise insulation complement the picture.

Yes, and the owners in their feedback noted that the car equipped with the H4M motor practically does not cause hassle. With the dynamics there are no problems, it is also not noticed, and the appetite is small - usually it does not rise above 9 l even in the metropolis.

With the permeability of the Iks, there are no problems.

Complexity with purchase

As it became clear, the sale of Lada Xray with a 110-strong motor is not for just one configuration. Cause in reducing costs and reducing the price of cars. To reduce the cost of hatchbacks, the "Nissanovsky" motor is removed from weapons, and its place occupies a domestic power unit, with a capacity of 106 liters. s., like on Vesta.

Is there a difference in the cost then?

This question is much more important than it seems initially. Indeed, taking into account approximately the same power, torque and minor differences in dynamic characteristics, many expect that the maintenance price tags will be about the same. But it was not there! The difference is and she is very significant!

In order to understand this, it is enough to simply calculate the total costs of passing the planned then Lada Xray with a 110-strong H4M motor. For example, it is reasonable to take a mileage of 90,000 km and prices in the Lada Moscow dealership centers. In addition, it is immediately necessary to clarify the interservice interval from the "Nissanov" engine H4M and the domestic 106-strong unit of the same - 15,000 km. Also in them you can pour the same oil from Rosneft.

In the list of operations and components in the first 5 then - to a run of 75,000 km - there are no differences. Mandatory replacement of engine oil and filters (air, cabin and oily). Difference only in price, as the components on a foreign motor are a bit more expensive than on domestic. In particular, amounts for TO-1, T-3 and TO-5 are different - for Xu Ray with a Russian engine, service will cost 5900 rubles per visit, and for hatchback with H4M under the hood - 6,500 rubles.

The difference in price for the X-RESE system with different motors is quite noticeable.

Completely all the situation with ignition candles. The interval of their replacement is indicated by 3,000,000 km, but not so simple. For the VAZ motor, their cost has already been included in the price of TO-2 and TO-4, which cost 6,400 rubles each. But the owners of the X Reath with H4M aggregates and for candles, and the replacement has to pay separately. As a result, it is 8,800 rubles that cost 8800 rubles, and another 4000 rubles for each of these will go to replace candles.

This cost is due to 2 factors:

1. Candles from the company NGK are used for H4M, whereas for the Russian motor are the candles from Bosch Russian production (Saratov);
2. Completeness of the replacement - for this you have to dismail the intake manifold and choke.

For the H4M motor, expensive candles are needed, and it is not easy to change them.

However, the most expenses are waiting for the owner of the imported motor after passing the first 90000 km when the time comes to-6. For the Master of Xu Ray with the Russian engine, it will cost 12,000 rubles, and the H4M hatchback holder will have to give a dealer of 34,500 rubles (together with candles)!

Almost 3-fold price differences is explained by the cost of the generator belt and rollers. For the "Nissanovsky" motor, they are much more expensive than for Russian.

The result is not the most rainbow, because in the first 90000 km owner of Lada Ix Rey with the domestic, 106-strong engine, it will be necessary to pay a total of 42500 rubles. But the cost of the owner of LADA XRAY with the H4M motor will reach 79600 rubles. The total difference is 37100 rubles.

Lada Xray with H4M engine can only be bought in the configuration of the jubilee.

Is there a lot or a little?

Indeed, some will say that it is possible for 90,000 km and to upset for extra 37100 rubles. However, many will nourish. Nevertheless, Lada Xray refers to the budget segment, where not only the cost of the car itself is important, but also the costs of its service. Otherwise, the dynamics, noise insulation, etc. - look at all intently.

In the light of such expenses frustrated by the fact that AvtoVAZ removes from the production of X Rey with the "Nissan" engine, it becomes less and less. In addition, the start of sales of the crossover with a 122-strong Russian engine with interest compensates for the loss.

The manufacturer prescribes the replacement of spark plugs after a run of 60,000 mileage.

As a rule, with normal operation, the candles are withstanding this interval.

If the engine is badly started or after starting, it works with the shocks, the ignition candles may be

All engine engines LADA Xray cylinders get ignition in order 1-3-4-2.

The task of the spark plug is the ignition of the fuel-air mixture in the combustion chamber. In this case, temperatures up to 2500˚ and pressure up to 60 bar.

In order for the spark to slip between the electrodes, the plug's connected bolt is surrounded by ceramic insulation.

In addition, the average electrode and the connected candle bolt are inserted into electrically conductive glassass, which provides a rigid fastening of these parts and tightness with respect to the combustion chamber.

When the required voltage is achieved, the electric current in the form of a spark from the middle electrode on the side of the candle is achieved. At the same time, the fuel and air mixture is flammified in the combustion chamber.

In order for the spark plug to work normally, after starting the engine, it should achieve its self-cleaning temperature in about 400˚.

If this temperature does not reach, the residues of the combustion products will fall on the heat cone of the insulator.

With full load, the temperature should not exceed 800 degrees.

The calle number of the candle determines the condition, whether the ignition candle is suitable for this engine.

If you use, for example, the spark plugs with too high calils, then the cone of the insulator can be very hot.

The consequence may be unusual galloping, which can destroy the motor.

And in contrast, if you choose the spark plugs with too low a caliling number, they will not achieve the necessary self-cleaning temperature, which will lead to the contamination of the thermal cone of the insulator.

Preparatory operations:

To work, we need a candle wrench, a tester for checking candles, a dipstick, a dynamometer key (if available).

Dismantling candles

Turn off the ignition. Purify the channels with compressed air where the ignition candles are inserted, so that you do not fall into the hole with any dirt.

Remove the upper plastic engine cover, Figure 1

Click on the retainer and disconnect the coil connector, Figure 2

Check the condition of high voltage wiring.

Water wires or wires with high traces need to be replaced.

Be sure to remove from the high voltage wiring salts to sprinkle the streets.

Turn off the coil fastening bolt E5

Remove the coil fastening bolt

We remove the rod coils, while paying attention to the visible defects of the coil insulators.

On the housing of the coils there should be no cracks or traces of "Lighter" (from spark overlap).

Blow the candle boosters with compressed air so that when unscrewed candles in the cylinders did not get dirt

Candle wrench on 16 unscrew the spark plugs

Remove the same spark plug key

If the ignition candle is "sits very tight", do not use force. Otherwise, the carving of the candle in the cylinder head can be torn. In this case, bring the engine to the operating temperature, and then try to unscrew the candle. Wait with the installation of new candles, until the engine cools. If you screw in the hot engine cold candle, it will sit there as a welded.

Checking the condition of candles

At the state of the electrodes, the candles and the threaded part can be determined, the engine is optimally running.

If the peak of the thermal cone of the candle insulator is painted from light gray to grayThe engine cylinder works normally, and the fuel injection system is well adjusted.

If the top of the thermal cone of the candle insulator has a white colorThe moment the ignition is not true.

Black, similar sediment Indicate that the spark plug does not reach the temperature of its self-cleaning (frequent short distances trips), an incorrect calic number, too high carbon monoxide content.

Oil layer on electrodes. Piston rings, guide valve sleeves or oil-circuit caps are damaged. You may have used oil or fuel with additives. In this case, it is necessary to replace the oil or fuel with additives and again check the condition of the candles.

Installation of candles

Preparing new candles to the installation for this:

With the help of probe, check the gap between the candle electrodes. Clearance look at the table above.

If the candle has a small gap, then flexing the outer electrode with a screwdriver, painting a screwdriver about the edge of the thread. In no case, do not rely on the central electrode, as you can damage the insulator.

If the candle has a big gap, then we fell the outer electrode by tapping on the side.

We inspect the candles for visible defects (pay attention to the candle insulators), there should be no chipping and cracks on the candle insulators.

Checking sparking candles with a tester.

We apply to the threaded part of the candle with non-stick lubricant (you can use the SHRM-4 lubricant).

Install a candle in the cylinder head and screw it with your fingers until you stop

Tighten the candle with a dynamometric key. If there is no dynamometric key, then tighten the candle with a rotation of 90˚ for a new candle and 15˚ for a working candle.

Spark plugs used for carLadaXray.

Ignition Candles You need to select based on what kind of engine costs. In his Arsenal, Lada Vesta has 4 gasoline engines:

• 8-valve VAZ-11189, 1.6 liters. At the moment, the car is no longer released with this engine.
• 16-valve VAZ-21129, 1.6 liters
• 16-valve VAZ-21179, 1.8 liters
• 16-valve Renault-Nissan HR16DE / H4M, 1.6 liters. It is planned to release this engine in the near future.

From the conveyor in Lada Vesta engines, you can meet 2 types of candles:

1. AU17DVRM - Installed on the first releases of Vesta. Price - from 60 rubles / pc. The manufacturer is the Russian company Standard (Engels). The central electrode has a copper core. The declared resource (30 thousand km.) This candle model is quenched normally. According to the reviews of car owners using such candles, after 15 thousand km of run, the engine begins to start badly in the winter, if the air temperature is below -15 degrees Celsius.
2. BRISK SUPER DR15YC-1 - Manufacturer - BRISK (Czech Republic). Average price - 55 rubles / pc. Material of the central electrode - copper. It occurs more often than the previous model. According to the reviews of the owners of Vesta with these candles, no problems are detected. The resource declared by the plant work well.

Candles ignition AU17DVRM

BRISK SUPER DR15YC-1 Ignition Candles

According to the factory replacement of the spark plugs on Lada Vesta, every 30 thousand km of mileage should be made. And although their real work resource is more, such a candle replacement interval is recommended due to domestic heavy operating conditions (poor-quality fuel, polluted environment, etc.)

SPECIFICATIONS OF LADA VETAL Ignition Candles

On the 16 valve engines of the spark plugs "recessed" into the cylinder block itself, on the 8 valve velves engines, they are located on the surface of the cylinder block, which significantly simplifies their screwing / unscrewing.

When you can draw attention to the analogues of the originals. The car manufacturer gives its recommendations for the selection of optimal candles for each engine type.

Recommended gap - 1-1.1 mm. If on some spark plug models, this parameter does not match, it is better to set it up to the recommended one. On ordinary candles (not iridium) after 5-10 thousand. Km Mileage Clearance can increase by 0.05 mm. Therefore, it is extremely preferably to check them on each, and if necessary, adjust the gap.

You can also establish iridium candles that have an increased service life (up to 60 thousand km of mileage). The most popular candles with such an electrode for Vesta - DENSO IQ20.. Price - from 490 rubles / pc. According to buyers' reviews - when installing the engine runs a little smaller, but obvious advantages is not observed. Installation of iridium candles is not too appropriate, as the price of one unit on average is equal to the price of a set of ordinary candles.

No car with a gasoline engine costs without periodic replacement of ignition candles. Naturally, domestic models are no exception. And therefore, the issue of replacing the spark plugs on Lada Vesta worries many owners, as well as the ability to do everything on their own to save on a hundred.

As for the regulations reflected in the manual, then in accordance with it, the installation of new components is obliged to be carried out every 30000 km.

Ordinary or iridium?

AvtoVAZ Complete Vesta Candles Brisk Super DR15YC-1. However, there are a lot of proposals on the market, and therefore in the matter of choice it is worth understanding separately. And it is the type of product that causes more questions.

Spark plugs for Lada Vesta can be one of the 2 types:

1. Ordinary;
2. Iridium.

With standard products, everything is generally clear. Therefore, the greatest interest concerns Iridiev. Many have heard that they are significantly better, but not everyone is ready to overpay when purchased - after all, one iridium candle costs 2-3 times more than a set of ordinary of 4 units!

In general, as tests show, including the authoritative publication "driving", iridium candles for Vesta are much better. They have a noticeably more resource, which allows you to replace 2-3 times less often and save on the work of masters, the fuel consumption of the engine with their wear is growing much more slowly than in the case of using ordinary. The same applies to toxicity.

If we look objectively, then buy iridium spark plugs on Lada Vesta stands if you actively exploit the car. If this is not the case, they simply do not pay off, and therefore it is more expedient to do with simple.

It is necessary to take into account the quality of fuel, because to ruin the iridium components "Painsen" gasoline is much moreover than simple.

Where can one buy?

Buy spark plugs for Lada Vesta, you can both in stationary auto shops and via the Internet. The table gives the most sought-after options, indicating the articles, types, prices and other parameters.

Brand, model	vendor code	A type	Set (pcs.)	Price, rub.)
DENSO SPARK PLUG	iK20TT.	Iridium	1	650
DENSO POWER	IQ20	Iridium	1	599
DENSO IRIDIUM TT.	IQ20TT	Iridium	1	599
Brisk.	DR15YC-1.	Normal	4	275
NGK.	BCPR6es.	Normal	1	190
Lada	51110	Normal	4	300
Brisk.	50694	Normal	1	70
NGK.	Lzkar7d-9d.	Iridium	1	399
DENSO.	IXEH20TT.	Iridium	1	690

As can be seen, there is a choice on the market. However, before making an order, it is strongly recommended to consult with the manager, if necessary, pointing to it the engine model or dictating the VIN code.

Stroke work

Independent replacement of spark plugs on Lada Vesta is quite possible, but before work it is worth prepare the appropriate tools. In particular, the knob, the extension, the head E-8, as well as the high head on 16.

All work should be carried out only on the cooled motor. First of all, you need to open the hood, after which, sharply jerks up, remove the plastic engine cover.

The actions algorithm is demonstrated on the example of one ignition coil.

First of all, the block is disconnected from the ignition coil. To do this, prescribe on the retainer and pull.

Then, using the E-8 head, you need to unscrew the screw fastening of the coil, then remove the coil from the well.

It will open access to the Ignition Candle of the Lada West Engine, which must be turned off by applying the extension cable and head to 16 (high) and remove.

It happens that the candle does not hold in the head and remains in the well. In this case, the removed coil is used.

During the installation process, spin the candle is required by hand. This is done to prevent damage to the thread in the GBC itself.

When the candle is tightened not by carving, it is immediately clear because the resistance is sharply growing. If this happened, you need to immediately unscrew the candle, carefully clean the thread and spin it again.

The tightening is carried out with a moment in 25-30 nm.

IMPORTANT! You should not drag the spark plug in Lada Vesta engine, as this can provoke the thread defects in the GBC.

The remaining three candles change in the same way.

On this, the independent replacement of the spark plugs on Lada Vesta is complete.