Changing the oil in the automatic transmission Honda SRV is one of those mandatory procedures, without which the car is subject to rapid wear. Despite the fact that the Honda CR-V is positioned as a reliable budget crossover with the makings of an SUV, its units do not last forever, and require constant attention from the owner. And the automatic transmission is the most capricious mechanism in the car.
Transmission oil change interval
Most often, Russian motorists are faced with the procedure for changing the oil in the MR4A automatic box on a Honda SRV 3. This modification, produced in the period from 2007 to 2011, won recognition from many compatriots. Even a high-quality original "transmission" with mileage loses its working properties and can no longer cope with its tasks.
Over time, the automatic transmission of the Honda crossover begins to behave capriciously and this manifests itself in the form of symptoms:
- re-gasification during gear changes;
- jerks when the accelerator pedal is depressed;
- slipping during the start;
- with a change in speed.
This interval also applies to other modifications of the model. For those who are accustomed to driving a car at high speed or loading the transmission off-road, the fluid should be changed more often.
Many Russian car enthusiasts want their favorite car to have a comfortable modern interior, a powerful engine, as well as an excellent suspension that can cope with any off-road conditions. These characteristics are consistent with the crossover, which was designed by engineers and designers of the Japanese company Honda Motor Co., Ltd. The model is called CR-V III (third generation). The car was produced from 2007 to 2012, after which it was replaced by a new 4th generation model.
Transmission features
Honda SRV 3 is equipped with two types of gearboxes - manual transmission (6-speed manual) and automatic transmission (5-speed automatic). The automatic box includes:
According to numerous reviews of car owners, the CR-V machine does its job perfectly - it changes gears very smoothly and gives a minimum overconsumption of fuel. The torque converter works in the driving range from second to fifth gear. The McPherson front suspension and multi-link rear suspension make it easy and comfortable to ride on any road. On the Internet, advertising videos can be used to appreciate the beauty and power of this car.
The Grade Logic system, as an integral part of the automatic transmission, changes gears not only depending on the engine speed. Driving conditions are also analyzed - downhill, downhill, in the city, on uneven roads, as well as the position of the throttle valve, the use of the brake pedal and other parameters. Depending on this, a regulator with a fuzzy algorithm selects the most suitable gear, moving the shift moment to one side or the other.
Structurally, the automatic transmission, designed by Honda specialists, differs from similar units from other manufacturers. Other materials are used in the production of parts, the structure can withstand higher temperatures, because it is capable of working under heavy loads. Therefore, the deputy chief designer of Honda Motors, Masahira Ishikawa, claims that no other ATF (Automatic Transmission Fluid), except for the one provided by the manufacturer, cannot be poured into the automatic transmission. It used to be ATF Z1, today it is the original ATF DW1. Otherwise, the box will fail after 30-40 thousand km, since no other oil is able to withstand such a temperature regime - it will simply boil, with far-reaching consequences.
When and how to change transmission fluid
CR-V owners should remember that in a Honda automatic transmission, the working fluid changes only by mileage. That is, it is useless to hope and wait until the oil darkens and a sediment appears in it. Transmission fluid, as a rule, does not change color, consistency over time and remains the same transparent. Only its properties change, many of which are lost after a run of 30–40 thousand km. Therefore, it is strongly recommended to replace ATF after every 30 thousand run. If you have any additional questions on this topic, look at the videos, there are a lot of them on the Internet.
If the operating conditions are difficult, only partial replacement is regularly performed, then it is advisable to change it more often, after 15–20 thousand km. If you do not keep to the schedule - over time, expensive repairs may be needed. If a car is purchased on the secondary market, then an oil change is immediately required, no matter what the previous owner of the car may say. According to Masahira Ishikawa, the oil change method used in automatic transmissions of other manufacturers is not suitable for CR-V machines.
That is, pumping oil under pressure and using a large amount of new fluid at the same time can only do harm. After all, the design of the gearbox at Honda is unique. There are at least two reasons why you should not rinse the box:
- The Honda assault rifle does not have a removable sump, so it cannot be physically removed and cleaned of deposits. During flushing, this turbidity will rise from the sump and settle on the filter, clogging it.
- The filter is not removable and not reusable. To get to it, you will need to completely disassemble the gearbox; the service station is unlikely to agree to this, and the cost of such work is very high.
Thus, the failure of the filter will sooner or later entail a breakdown of the entire automatic transmission. A clogged filter causes an increase in the pressure of the working fluid at the inlet of the system and its absence at the outlet. As a result - the inability to get under way or the start of movement at high engine speeds. This means that the automatic transmission in the CR-V is out of order and very expensive repairs will be required.
Optimal and correct for the 3rd generation CR-V will be a partial replacement, in which the automatic transmission will require about 4 liters of ATF DW1 oil - strange as it may seem at first glance. This transmission fluid replaces ATF Z1 and is fully compatible with it. That is, it is possible to partially replace ATF DW1 instead of the previously filled ATF Z1.
The procedure for partial replacement of the lubricant
Oil change in a 3rd generation Honda SRV car is displayed in the video - many videos on this topic can be found on the Internet. Partial replacement of the lubricating fluid can be carried out independently, only for this you need to place the car on an overpass or above a viewing pit. In addition, you need to purchase 4 liters of original ATF DW1 transmission fluid (preferably with a small margin), and also have rubber gloves, work clothes, a set of tools and a container into which the old fluid will be drained.
- The engine and transmission are warming up, the Honda CR-V is placed on an overpass or above a viewing pit. The hood opens, and 5 minutes after the engine is turned off, the oil level in the automatic transmission is measured. If it is below the required level, a new one is added to the filler hole (where the dipstick was) to the required level (just below the upper mark of the dipstick). After this procedure, the probe is not installed back.
- After another 5-10 minutes, you can drain the old transmission fluid. The time delay is done so that the oil cools down a little and does not cause burns. Then you need to find the drain hole. The machine should be located to the right of the engine belt. In order to get to the drain plug, you will have to remove the protection (if installed) and clean the drain plug with a metal brush from dirt. It should be near the right front wheel of the Honda SRV.
- A container with a volume of at least 4 liters is placed under the cork, and the cork is carefully unscrewed with a 3/8 square. It is necessary to tighten it with your fingers, after putting on gloves so that it does not fall into the container. Oil will begin to flow out of the automatic transmission crankcase.
- After a while, it will stop flowing altogether. The container should contain about 3–3.5 liters of waste liquid. After that, the magnetic end of the drain plug must be cleaned of metal chips and dirt, for this you can use WD-40. After cleaning, it is imperative to replace the old aluminum washer in the cork with a new one.
- The volume of the leaked liquid is measured, this can be done using plastic bottles with a volume of 1 liter, pouring mining there. After that, it will be known more precisely how much of the old grease has flowed out.
- The plug is installed in its place. The filling phase of the new lubricant begins. For this purpose, you can use a funnel with a hose or a large syringe (not medical), to which you also need to connect a hose. The hose is inserted into the filler hole (where the dipstick is). The replacement of a new transmission fluid in the automatic transmission is carried out in the same volume as that leaked out.
- In the process of filling, you need to be careful and not pour ATF, it is better to top up a little later. Otherwise, you will have to climb under the hood again, remove the dipstick and suck the excess liquid back with a syringe.
- The engine starts and warms up, and with it the automatic transmission. After warming up, the motor turns off and a temporary pause is taken from 3 to 5 minutes. Only after that the level of the working fluid is measured with a dipstick. This sequence is required for the Honda CR-V.
According to the oil level in the automatic transmission Honda CR-V: some masters advise that it be on the upper bar of the dipstick. Others believe that the level should be located in the middle, between the minimum and maximum. In any case, the car will drive normally, the main thing is that the level is not higher than the maximum. Otherwise, the gearbox will have problems over time.
And one more tip: do not fill in transmission fluid from other manufacturers - only from Honda. Only in this case the CR-V transmission will delight with trouble-free confident operation.
There are also supporters of a complete lubricant change, but this may require 10-12 liters of ATF. Replacement is done in 2-3 steps, between them you need to drive a car for a week.
The most massive Honda external filter for automatic transmissions. Began to be installed on Honda cars at the end of 2001. Such a filter is on the Honda Civic 7 (only on the variator), 8 and 9 generations, Honda SRV 2, 3, 4 and 5 generations, Honda Accord 7, 8 and 9 generations and many others. As you can see, demand creates supply, and our Chinese friends are making huge quantities of counterfeits for this filter. Let's take a look at one of them.
The appearance does not arouse any special suspicion. Those who are very attentive may notice a slight difference in the type of writing. The packaging and the label are very well done. On this you can forget about the good.
The counterfeit filter is lighter. They couldn't even do it.
1. There is always a mark on the inlet side of the original filter. Such a factory feature is available from Toyo Roki and their American subsidiary Filtech. It is these firms that produce this filter.
2. The color of the metal of fakes is always yellowish. The paint is uneven. The metal is much thinner. They even differ in shape.
3. The date of manufacture of the filter and the date it was packaged are shown on the filter itself and on the labels.
Original production date: 7В27 = 17 years, February, 27 days
Original packing date: 7С09 = 17 years, March, 9 days.
Counterfeit date of manufacture: 4B27 = 14 February, 27 days
Counterfeit packing date: 4C13 = 14 year March 13 day.
Fake details are often written as the 46th day or nonexistent month. Their release years, as a rule, lag behind by 3-4 years. Or vice versa for 1-2 years ahead. You can see how to determine the release date on this page.
In a fake filter, the amount of the filter element is much less, and so that the cartridge does not dangle, it is supported by a spring.
And this is where the fun begins. The filters are sawn in one place, and their designs are very different.
1. The bypass valve on the original is on the inlet side, and on the counterfeit it is upside down.
To make it clearer what this valve is for, we made this picture. Under normal conditions, oil along the outer wall enters the filter element, passes through it and enters the automatic transmission already cleaned. In case the oil is very thick (in severe frost) or if the filter element is completely clogged, the oil passes through this bypass valve.
The filter is specially made asymmetrical. This is the so-called foolproofing. So that when installing it could not be put backwards. And so that the valve is always on the inlet side.
But on a fake, this valve was put upside down. The Chinese did not begin to think about what the valve is for and how the liquid circulates in no way.
For the sake of purity of experiments, we nevertheless decided to show how much paper is in a fake.
The filter element on a fake is not only smaller in height, but also its diameter is noticeably smaller than the original. Which ultimately gives a significantly smaller filtration area.
Well, as usual. How the original and the fake glow in ultraviolet light.
1. The original has two luminescent marks. The letter "H" is shining brightly, the letter "N" seems to be half-glowing.
The fake all glows like ordinary paper.
This original filter 25430-PLR-003 you can buy and install in our technical center.
Automatic transmission is the most complex mechanism in any car. The owners of such cars are obliged to constantly pay attention to its condition. Carry out service on time, regularly change ATF and oil filter.
According to the manufacturer's recommendation, replacement 3 and 1 should be carried out every 30–35 thousand kilometers. But in the conditions of our terrible roads, this period is better to be halved. It is very important if you bought not a new car, then do not try to save money, but replace the transmission fluid immediately.
Reasons indicating the need for topping up fluid in an automatic transmission or completely replacing it:
- Shocks during gear shifting.
- Kicks when you press the gas pedal.
- Various kinds of slippage and frequent overrunning.
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What kind of oil and how much is needed
ATF-Z1 is a special mineral gear lubricant for automatic boxes Traditional Honda. It was used on all cars up to 2011. ATF-Z1 is unique and recommended for Honda automatic gearboxes produced since 1995. Since 2011, the machines have been operating on the new ATF-DW1 oil.
Replacing the lubricant mixture in Honda SRV 3 and 1 cars occurs in approximately the same way. The only difference is that for the Honda SRV 1 you need 3.5 liters, and for the Honda SRV 3 a little more than 4 liters. lubricants ATF Z1 (or ATF DW-1).
Tools
- Transmission fluid Honda ATF Z1 (or ATF DW-1) - 3.5-4l.
- External cleaning barrier 25430-PLR-003.
- Automatic transmission plug sealing washer, 18.5 x 25.5 mm - 90471-PX4-000.
- Capacity for draining ATP.
- Jack.
Replacement instructions
There is nothing difficult in changing the oil in Honda SRV 3 and 1 cars, but there are certain nuances:
Video "Replacing the lubricant mixture in the automatic transmission on the Honda CRV I"
In this video, an experienced auto repairman will demonstrate the entire process of replacing transmission grease in an automatic transmission. After viewing it, you can easily service the automatic transmission of your car yourself without wasting time and money.
The material presented by us will allow you to cope with replacing the ATF box on your own, but if you still have questions, ask them in the comments.
Automatic transmission is one of the most technically complex components of any car. An automatic transmission always requires increased attention and proper maintenance, and if the filter of the box is also changed within the terms set by the manufacturer of the automatic transmission, the box will last its entire service life without requiring major repairs. Changing the oil in the automatic transmission in the Honda SRV 3 can be done independently.
Features of automatic transmission Honda CRV 3-1
The third generation of CR-V crossovers is equipped with two gearbox options:
- mechanical 6-speed;
- 5-speed automatic transmission.
Automatic transmission, controlled by the original Grade Logic control unit, ensures smooth change of transmission stages and low fuel consumption, in comparison with "mechanics". The box ECU shifts gears based on the readings of numerous sensors:
- speed;
- engine speed;
- slope;
- pedal positions, etc.
All this allows you to change gears in an optimal way.
The automatic transmission was designed by Honda engineers. It uses special materials designed for high temperatures and "harsh" operating conditions. But to ensure the smooth operation of the box, it needs a regular gear oil change. Symptoms indicate the need for an immediate oil change:
- "Kicks" of the box when depressing the accelerator pedal;
- overgas, frequent slippage;
- felt when driving;
- and other behavioral anomalies.
But this happens already with worn-out oil, which has not changed for a long time. If the replacement is carried out on time, the box continues to work without interruptions and problems. The official recommendation is every 30-35 thousand km. In Russian realities, this period can be halved, since cars with automatic transmissions are sometimes operated in rather harsh conditions. It is advisable to do the prevention of the box with an oil change in the automatic transmission Honda SRV and when buying a used car.
Important: the degree of oil wear in the automatic transmission Honda SRV is determined by the real mileage. The popular method of visually inspecting transmission oil for color and sediment does not work as CRV transmission fluid is not prone to change in consistency and light. Only its cooling and lubricating properties are deteriorating, which are lost after about 40 thousand km.
What kind of oil and how much is needed
There is an opinion among car owners that any oil can be poured into an automatic transmission, as long as it fits within the tolerances. This is categorically incorrect: the specialists of the Honda concern strongly recommend using only original oil, otherwise the gearbox will quickly wear out.
Until 2011, Honda-Z1 grease was used in the boxes, which was also poured into the automatic transmission Honda SRV RD 1, of the first generation:
In car models produced after 2011, the new ATF DW-1 fluid is used.
Interesting: the oil for automatic transmission Honda SRV DW-1 and Z1 are compatible, and it is allowed to partially replace the old gearbox oil with a new fluid, without removing the old one.
To change the oil in the automatic transmission Honda SRV 3, you will need about 10 liters of fluid in full, for a partial one - about 4.
Transmission Oil Change Procedure
In Honda CR-V 3 and generation 1 crossovers, fluid can be changed in two ways:
- complete;
- partial.
Complete replacement
It is better to carry out it in a car service, for this you will need about 10 liters. oils. Usually, with a complete replacement, it is customary to change the filter, but the feature of the Honda SRV 3 automatic transmission is that the filter is non-removable, located in the middle of the box, therefore, even in a car service, it is suggested to carry out the procedure without changing the filter element of the box. If it is nevertheless changed, the box will first have to be dismantled and disassembled, which significantly increases the cost of the procedure.
In addition to the internal one, the Honda SRV 3 box also has an external filter that you can change yourself. Its scheduled replacement period is every 90 thousand km. Part code - 25430-PLR-003 (oil filter):
The reason for this: the "automatic" from Honda does not have a removable pallet. This means that it is physically and technically impossible to remove the pallet and clean it from the accumulated deposits. And if you rinse the box with oil under high pressure, the suspension will rise from the non-removable sump and contaminate the oil filter of the Honda SRV 3 automatic transmission, which, in turn, will lead to its laborious replacement and significant waste.
Partial oil change
As mentioned above, you will need about 4 liters of new ATF (it is recommended to take a little more, with a margin). In addition to oil, you will need:
- set of tools;
- metal brush;
- cleaning rags;
- gloves;
- container for draining "working off" from the gearbox.
The automatic transmission oil change is carried out in several stages:
- If there is, it must first be removed.
- Place the previously prepared container under the hole, and unscrew the plug:
- Old liquid starts to flow:
- Then the plug is screwed back in. Before that, you can put a new washer on it:
- After that, new oil is poured through the dipstick hole, the standard replacement volume is 3.5 liters. After that, check the level with a dipstick and top up the missing / drain the excess, if necessary.
For filling, you can use a special device, for example, a syringe:
The car starts up, a test drive is made, a control measurement is made and drain / refill, if necessary.
Interesting: in this way, you can carry out a complete replacement, repeating the procedure two or three times, at weekly intervals.
