Comparison audi q3 and tiguan. Comparison of Audi Q3 and Volkswagen Tiguan. Start of sales in Russia

Chamomile11 01-01-2013 21:20

Greetings to Vasya members of the forum and congratulations on the coming NG! So to speak, I got out, I like the WV Tiguan and the Audi Q3, the cars are similar in technical characteristics and at the price, well, the Audi version has 211hp. a little more expensive than Tiga170hp What would you advise? Although to be honest, I like Pradik 120th, 3-door most of all, but the new road (yes, I did not find them on sale), and used some ancient basically and stand like a cast-iron bridge! And as my friend says, the best car is a new one! I did not find normal reviews for the Audi Q3, so they unsubscribe on trifles that such a good car does not break down at all?

aboss 02-01-2013 07:44

And as my friend says, the best car is a new one!
IP
P.M. C

Henry Ford said it first.

quote: Originally posted by Chamomile11:

machines are similar in technical characteristics and in price

Well, at the price of audi it will be more expensive.

Voices 02-01-2013 09:38

quote: Originally posted by Chamomile11:

cars are similar in price

horseradish, they are similar where the maximum configuration of the Tiguan ends, only the minimum ku3 begins))

Chamomile11 02-01-2013 14:26

quote: Originally posted by aboss:

Audi has a "start-stop" system now, something tells me that this is not very good.

Oh, the engine stalls when you press the pedal, stop?

aboss 02-01-2013 17:03

quote: Originally posted by Chamomile11:

Oh, the engine stalls when you press the pedal, stop?

Like yes, when braking at a traffic light in order to "save", and starts when moving on.

Chamomile11 02-01-2013 17:19

How about X1 in this regard?

aboss 02-01-2013 17:38

X1 didn’t look, I can’t say anything. (I had a Tiguan, I watched Q3 for my wife)

Chamomile11 02-01-2013 17:53

What about the memories of Tigi?

aboss 02-01-2013 18:38

Contradictory. On the one hand: beautiful, comfortable, good suspension, comfortable, well-controlled, like a "passenger car", economical. Relatively inexpensive to buy, but not cheap to maintain. And the disadvantages are a stunted engine (I had 1.4), low-quality electronics (now all "Germans" in my opinion have Chinese microcircuits), a stupid electronic handbrake, no less "stupid" Haldex clutch. But these are all my comments, it's okay for someone. In general, for a "girl" in the city + sometimes the dacha is a good car, only automatic transmission and 2.0 engine are mandatory.

DM 02-01-2013 18:49

both options looked ex-wife did not like anything

Chamomile11 02-01-2013 19:00

So which one to choose at this price point?

DM 02-01-2013 19:45

the maximum amount of money you want to spend?

Chamomile11 02-01-2013 19:54

1400 somewhere. I don’t know anything about Volvo, except what they say about the high cost of repairs, but I haven’t heard about such a model at all!

YolkinTuzik 02-01-2013 20:01

quote: Originally posted by Chamomile11:
1400 somewhere. I don’t know anything about Volvo, except what they say about the high cost of repairs, but I haven’t heard about such a model at all!

Gyk ...
and zwagens, probably, repair for free?
Whatever the cost there is - certainly not more expensive than AUDI!
Yes, and about the exorbitant service of the Volvo - the bikes are truncated ...

But the device is not as hijacked as the same Q3 ...
And it fits well into the indicated amount ...
I recommend taking a closer look ...

DM 02-01-2013 20:02

Volvo is better than the people's car and Avdotya

Chamomile11 02-01-2013 20:06

And it is already on sale, I haven’t found any offers on the author's account, but in the Major it turns out? Is it interesting to wait for it for half a year as Teague?

DM 02-01-2013 20:08

for this money you can also buy a FREELANDER 2 S

2.2 TD4 automatic transmission 2.2-liter turbo diesel engine with 150 hp. with 6-speed automatic transmission and CommandShiftR function

DM 02-01-2013 20:11

Freelander 2 TD4, 2.2L, 150HP 12MY Е 1 233 000p

DM 02-01-2013 20:12

TD4 2.2 150PS 13MY S
RUB 1,233,000

YolkinTuzik 02-01-2013 20:18

quote: Originally posted by Chamomile11:
And it is already on sale, I haven’t found any offers on the author's account, only in the Major does it work?

Major, musa, butts, independence ...
The list of ODs is available on the website:
http://www.volvocars.com/ru/fo...%BA%D0%B2%D0%B0

Friel in this amount will be in the base and on the handle ... there will be no climate. Only condo ...
http://www.major-landrover.ru/..._i_price/price/
And the V40 - in the middle / maximum configuration ...
Friel is really worth "one and a half" ...

Chamomile11 02-01-2013 20:32

The only thing for Volvo, the ground clearance is small 145, I live in the region, here sometimes gullies are not weak, but his skirt is still low! Waiting for Volvo until March-April, now called the salon. often break down, peredkmal (and after all, I looked at this model, and in the city looked closely at this model and called a friend in the service, a friend told a well-known anecdote about 2 drivers of the Republic of Latvia)!

Chamomile11 02-01-2013 20:47

Casco for Volvo from 70 tons + to the price, but outwardly an interesting car! One thing is bad in our city, there is no normal service, we will have to ride almost 100 km with traffic jams in one direction to the officials for any little thing, as they said in the salon, THEN after 20 thousand km (and until the end of the car, as the manager said), I thought that 4 is all! And at Friel: Frelander 2 version E is equipped with a 6-speed manual transmission and an intelligent Stop / Start system as standard (like Avdotya)! Now the videos have looked. there are no reviews of any, for a moment! Well, maybe by the spring someone will buy and try, of course you have to touch it with your hands and try it yourself!

aboss 02-01-2013 21:30

quote: Originally posted by Chamomile11:

of course you must touch it with your hands and try it yourself!

Now you need to touch everything with your hands and be sure to ride, although of course the test drive gives a little.

Chamomile11 02-01-2013 21:50

And the main thing is that they are not on the test drive, they said that there is another model with a T-50 engine, and they will be there by the spring.

DM 02-01-2013 21:56

quote: Originally posted by Chamomile11:

About Land Rovers there are a lot of lies about those who have never ridden them.
I have had experience of owning, using and disposing of FR 2
I ordered Friel 2 from a dealer, received it in February 2008, more than 4 years of operation, sold it in September 2012 - nothing broke even once, the car is beautiful, after it I could not buy either a BMW X3 or an AUDI Q5 - you get used to the good. Now I have Disco 4.

DM 02-01-2013 21:59

I went to the service every 12,000 km, go through scheduled maintenance and that's it

YolkinTuzik 02-01-2013 22:03

quote: Originally posted by Chamomile11:
The only thing for Volvo, the ground clearance is small 145, I live in the region, here sometimes gullies are not weak, but his skirt is still low! Waiting for Volvo until March-April, now called the salon. often break down, peredkmal (and after all, I looked at this model, and in the city looked closely at this model and called a friend in the service, a friend told a well-known anecdote about 2 drivers of the Republic of Latvia)!

The ground clearance is indicated there as 145 mm - geometric: it is counted from the rear suspension arms. If you look the same for Tiguan or Q3, I think it will be no better there ...
From the official data, it is indicated that the ground clearance is 40 mm higher than on the V40 (this is REALLY, a lot). And on the V40 people drive and do not complain ...

quote: Originally posted by Chamomile11:
Casco for Volvo from 70 tons + to the price

And on Avdi-Q3 "the Baksoff thing"?
I was offered from 70 to 80 thousand for Lancer ... it could have just as well offered 700 ... 800 ...

Chamomile11 02-01-2013 22:40

quote: Originally posted by DM:

you get used to good things.

Tell me, what kind of suspension does Friel2 have on pneuma or is it simple? And how did the diesel show itself (if you had a diesel)? We have a dumb "life" with a diesel in our city, although of course Friel2 is a beautiful car!
And Volvo vaguely resembles (more properties) the Skoda Octavia Scout, also a wagon of increased capacity, but as he said about Volvo, the manager of the V40 is a premium car and all sorts of popular cars are gross cars! cars, but I work every day, it’s difficult to get out to Moscow! Both cars are interesting, but you probably still need more money for Friel2 (for a full-fledged complete set), I will collect opinions and advice and think (and most importantly save money)!

DM 02-01-2013 23:47

on Friel 2 simple suspension

the diesel is great, never let you down if you have Lukoil or Rosneft in your city, there will be no problems

you can, of course, take a gasoline one, but after a diesel engine I take only a diesel engine - the sensations are completely different

YolkinTuzik 04-01-2013 12:44

The prices for diesel fuel have just become insane ... just recently I noticed that diesel fuel is more expensive than 95! Scribe!...

ON FREE, except that now special offers will go: in February-March they will "merge" the 12th year of release. They have real discounts there ...

blackbox 09-01-2013 12:09

Q3 is ugly, but it's pure IMHO, of course. Tiguan looks more brutal, although this is also IMHO. But the size of the trunk is already a fact.
2-liter engines are also very different. The top Tiguanovsky, by the way, is not 170, but 200, however, the front bumper will be of the "urban" type (Sport and Style). And even this one is much less forced and more reliable than the audiushny one. There, not only horses are important, we look at traction - Audi has as much as 350 Nm, too much for a two-liter gasoline. Achieved by pure shamanism, as a result - the engine does not like our gasoline, dust, Putin and United Russia
It all depends on the equipment in the cabin. It makes sense to take Tiguan with a comfortable interior - genuine leather there is really natural, animals have suffered, everything is in order. For Audi, the same pleasure will be much more expensive and not much better. The box on the Audi is again 7-speed. DSG, moody. At the Russian assembly, at the numerous requests of the workers, ordinary automatic machines (6 tbsp.) Are installed on the Tiga.

Chamomile11 09-01-2013 21:18

quote: Originally posted by blackbox:

At the Russian assembly, at the numerous requests of the workers, ordinary automatic machines (6 tbsp.) Are installed on the Tiga.

Yeah 4motion, neighbor 3 years left for tigi, only positive emotions, sold only because he switched to Mercedes-Benz GLK-Class 300! The neighbor also had a full minced meat, it is a pity that he did not have time to train, he sold it in one day!

blackbox 10-01-2013 11:50

quote: Mercedes-Benz GLK-Class

Surprisingly popular, by the way, here in Chelyabinsk. With a 2-liter Deshman diesel engine, of course. Some people bashfully rip off the numbers
So what? "Mercedes jeep!"

TIIL-59 20-01-2013 18:59

DM, I also collect information on Frelander 2, I've already twisted all my brains for myself. It's time to change your crossover. And the choice is not great ... It's a little scary to mess with our solarium. And my friend has also been driving for 4 years. I have not complained. But I like me Friel 2. And where can I find the most honest reviews about him ?!

Ilyas116 20-01-2013 21:51

“At the numerous requests of the workers, ordinary automatic machines (6 tbsp.) Are put on the Russian-made Tigue - for this it became a decisive argument, my choice of the Tig with a diesel engine, for 6 months I drove 17,000 km while satisfied, moderately dynamically and economically.

Chamomile11 21-01-2013 02:10

No, I'm afraid to take a diesel engine, with diesel fuel, our quality is not very good! I don't want to screw up the new dvigun!

blackbox 21-01-2013 07:16

Diesel fuel is not good in the North Caucasus, in other places everything is good for a long time. It is clear that you should not buy off-hand offers and other options such as container filling stations. But branded stations sell quite normal diesel fuel. Economy, long range, crazy traction ...

Chamomile11 21-01-2013 15:47

But diesel is probably slower than gasoline? I read yesterday about the Opel Antara, conflicting reviews, but also an interesting car, the price is similar and some engines are slightly stronger than Tiguan's!

YolkinTuzik 21-01-2013 15:54

quote: Originally posted by Chamomile11:
But diesel is probably slower than gasoline?

At the start from a place and the initial set of speed, the diesel is inferior (less power set), but in responsiveness (acceleration from ~ 40 ... 60 km / h to ~ 100 ... 120 km / h) it is much more fun. And this, read, is the main mode of operation ...
So, if you like to actively "click the handle" or buy a car with a "quick automatic", then in reality the diesel will be even faster ...
In the city, it is not the acceleration "from 0 to 100" that is important, but the pickup from "40 to 80" ... and the diesel engine has the peak there ... + insensitivity to vehicle loading (that 1 passenger, that 5 with luggage - will go the same).

In other matters, a gasoline turbo engine will be MUCH faster than an aspirated or TD, but it will also eat MUCH more ...

blackbox 22-01-2013 07:22

quote: I read yesterday about the Opel Antara, conflicting reviews

I had Captiva - Antara's sister, from the same Korean (Daewoo) assembly line. Strongly not recommended. Disgusting platform - does not roll, unsprung masses boom, roll. A very heavy car - all the power advantage will go to moving unnecessary hardware.

TIIL-59 22-01-2013 09:49

Captiva is still that coronation ... I rode it ... But someone also likes it. You will not understand us autonomy.

Chamomile11 25-01-2013 12:26

A neighbor suggested that I pay attention to the Mazda CX-7, did anyone try it in practice, according to reviews it is gluttonous and tough, but there is also a 238 horse engine (if not confusing)?

blackbox 25-01-2013 08:13

quote: Originally posted by Chamomile11:
A neighbor suggested that I pay attention to the Mazda CX-7, did anyone try it in practice, according to reviews it is gluttonous and tough, but there is also a 238 horse engine (if not confusing)?

Compare Which is better than the Audi Q3 or Volkswagen Tiguan.

The presented cars 2017-2018 belong to a German corporation. In both models, many characteristics have been improved, external and internal appearance.

The appearance of the Audi Q3 has undergone minor changes, the car looks both modest and elegant and stylish. The designers have reworked the hood - it is now more sloping, ribs pass in the side parts. The radiator grill, the upper part of which goes into the optics, has now become more massive, the grille itself has a chrome frame. Bumper with multiple air ducts, as well as optics with a lot of smooth lines.

Side view shows chrome roof strips and small exterior mirrors with turn signals. At the bottom of the doors there is a recess that perfectly matches the glazing. At the stern, there is a large triangular optics, as well as a spoiler on the fifth door. And in addition to all the "dimensions" with two exhaust pipes.

The changes in the appearance of the Volkswagen Tiguan have taken place great. Rectangular lights with tapered chrome grille. Ribs are visible on the bonnet of the updated model. The ribs also run along the side at the level of the door handles, rushing to the stern. The wheel arches are massive - they accommodate wheels with 20-inch rims.

The fifth door has become somewhat larger, on the rear bumper there are reflector stripes, and, of course, a diffuser. Outside mirrors with sloping shapes.

Interior of Audi Q3 and Volkswagen Tiguan

The interior of the Audi Q3 has undergone minor changes. The designers have changed the dashboard to accommodate an 8-inch monitor. The panel itself has acquired large dimensions, it looks fashionable, the steering wheel is multifunctional. The client can choose the color scheme of the interior at his discretion from several types.

The ergonomics of the interior space is simply amazing, everyone inside will feel comfortable. But, the driver's seat is set low, it interferes with good visibility, even many different adjustments will not help this.

Inside the Volkswagen Tiguan, the space has increased. The second seats are divided, they have a step-by-step adjustment of the backrest, they can be moved forward and backward, thus increasing the luggage compartment. The equipment consists of these options: 7 PB, various auxiliary systems, ACP, EDS, MSR, "electric hand", assistant during the start and descent. On the dashboard there is a 12.3-inch multi-mode monitor, a color on-board computer, an acoustic system with a monochrome monitor.

Updated navigation system, 2 or 3-zone climate control system, front seats with el. driven, heated and ventilated. In a more expensive modification, there is an option for massage on the seats, a cruise control system, panoramic cameras, a panoramic sunroof, a fifth door with el. drive and parking sensors on autopilot.

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Start of sales in Russia

Sales of the Audi Q3 will begin in the spring, and sales of the Volkswagen Tiguan in the fall of this year.

Complete set

• Base - 1.4 liter engine. 150 "horses", gasoline, gearbox - MT, AMT, front axle drive, acceleration - 8.9 / 9.2 s, speed - 204 km / h, consumption: 6.6 / 5.0 / 5.6; 7.1 / 5.2 / 5.9
• Desing, Sport motor 1.4 l. 150 "horses", gasoline, gearbox - MT, AMT, front axle drive, acceleration - 8.9 / 9.2 s, speed - 204 km / h, consumption: 6.6 / 5.0 / 5.6; 7.1 / 5.2 / 5.9
• Engine 2.0 l. 180 "horses", gasoline, gearbox - AMT, drive on both axles, acceleration - 7.6 s, speed - 217 km / h, consumption: 7.8 / 5.8 / 6.6
• Engine 2.0 l. 184 "horses", diesel, gearbox - AMT, drive on both axles, acceleration - 7.9 s, speed - 219 km / h, consumption: 6.3 / 4.6 / 5.3
• Engine 2.0 l. 220 "horses", gasoline, gearbox - AMT, drive on both axles, acceleration - 6.4 s, speed - 233 km / h, consumption: 7.9 / 5.9 / 6.7

Volkswagen Tiguan:

• TrendandFun, Club, Allstar, Avenue - 1.4 liter engine. 122 "mares", gasoline, gearbox - MT, front axle drive, acceleration - 10.9 s, speed - 185 km / h, consumption: 8.3 / 5.6 / 6.6
• Motor 1.4 l. 150 "mares", gasoline, gearbox - AMT, front axle drive, acceleration - 9.6 s, speed - 192 km / h, consumption: 8.9 / 7.0 / 7.2
• Motor 2.0l. 180 "mares", gasoline, gearbox - AT, drive on both axles, acceleration - 9.6 s, speed - 201 km / h, consumption: 11.6 / 7.1 / 8.8
• TrackandField-motor 2.0l. 180 "mares", gasoline, gearbox - AT, drive on both axles, acceleration - 9.6 s, speed - 201 km / h, consumption: 11.6 / 7.1 / 8.8
• Sport- motor 2.0l. 180 "mares", gasoline, gearbox - AT, drive on both axles, acceleration - 9.6 s, speed - 201 km / h, consumption: 11.6 / 7.1 / 8.8
• Motor 2.0l. 211 "mares", gasoline, gearbox - AMT, drive on both axles, acceleration - 7.3 s, speed - 213 km / h, consumption: 11.8 / 6.8 / 8.7

Dimensions (edit)

• L * W * H Audi Q3 - 4388 * 1831 * 1590 mm
• L * W * H Tiguan - 4486 * 1839 * 1632 mm
• Wheelbase Audi Q3 - 2 m 60.3 centimeters
• Tiguan wheelbase - 2 m 68.1 centimeters
• Clearance Audi Q3 - 17 centimeters
• Clearance Tiguan - 20 centimeters

Price of all configurations

The price of the Audi Q3 is from 1,911,000 to 2,651,000 rubles. Volkswagen Tiguan price from 1,181,000 to 1,876,000 rubles.

Audi Q3 and Volkswagen Tiguan engine

Audi Q3 has 4 units: 1.4 l. 150 "horses", 2 liters. gasoline engine 180 and 220 "horses" and 2 liters. diesel 184 "horses". Checkpoint - MT and AMT. From 6.4 to 9.2 s. The speed is 233 km / h.

Volkswagen Tiguan has four engines: 1.4 liters. 122 "mares", 1.4 liters. 150 "mares", 2.0 liters. 180 "mares" and 2.0 liters. 211 "mares". From 7.3 s to 10.9 s. The maximum speed is 213 km / h.

Trunk of Audi Q3 and Volkswagen Tiguan

The trunk of the Audi Q3 is designed for 1365 liters. The trunk of the Volkswagen Tiguan is designed for 1655 liters.

Final conclusion

Both cars are equipped with very high quality. Many features have been updated and improved, both interior and exterior. Price category Audi Q3 is more expensive. The choice, gentlemen, is up to you.

VW Tiguan 2.0 TSI VW Golf V 1.4 TSI.

Strengths:

Four-wheel drive and good ground clearance are its main advantages.

Weak sides:

I will not describe the shortcomings - the owners of the Zhiguli will find it funny.

Review Volkswagen Tiguan 2.0 TSI (Volkswagen Tiguan) 2011 Part 2

So my friends, the mileage is moving towards a hundred, and the car continues to present surprises. The joy ended when the Focus2 was replaced by the Honda CRV. I will not compare with her, because, forgive me, VAG-o phyla. CRV with motor 2, 4 is better in everything. She has already run almost 50 tyk. Because it is more pleasant to ride on it. Tobish, if where to dalnyak, then Honda rolls, and VAG smokes on the sidelines. VAG it is purely for short stable distances in Moscow, and it is also a controversial point, because the consumption on the Tiguan grows terribly as it ages, and dealers and other skilled workers say that this is the norm.

So let's start in order. Forgive me, but in this class of SUVs I will be comparing it with the RCV, since I have and use these two cars.

In previous reviews, if you remember, I talked about the problems associated with Tiga. So I want to draw your attention to what I did not have time to write. There is one very important nuance when changing timing chains; when disassembling, it is necessary to frequently inspect each bolt in the chain tensioning system. Since they are pricked from high loads and, accordingly, their remains can get inside, and this, accordingly, gets into the repair of the engine, which, if guaranteed, does not care, but we don’t name it for very decent money.

Strengths:

Pure German, with all that it implies !!!

Weak sides:

There are nuances, and there are a lot of them compared to Asians.

The Japanese and Koreans are utterly more reliable in everything

Review of Volkswagen Tiguan 2.0 TSI (Volkswagen Tiguan) 2011

Hello, friends! Exactly one year has passed since the start of ownership VW Tiguan 2.0 TSI ... During this year, he wound exactly 10,000 km on its wheels. Now you can write something about him. I will compare with my favorite car VW Golf V 1.4 TSI.

I bought the car exactly one year ago, quite spontaneously. It's just that every winter on Golf at least a couple of times, but I'll get stuck in some snow-ice hole so that without a tie, neither here nor there. And last winter in someone else's yard he was once again stuck so that he spent an hour, unable to ask anyone to push (a banal situation - well, there were no passers-by, and that's it!). Suddenly I see - the old man is driving on Padzherik; Well, I asked him to hook it (especially since I already had a tie at the ready). Padzherik pulled off my plane without straining at all. As soon as I said goodbye to the old man, thanking him for his help, I immediately got stuck ten meters from my previous standing, and for another half hour. A passer-by helped push out. As soon as I got home, I immediately stumbled on the Internet, trying to find something four-wheel drive. I looked closely at Tiguan before, but I didn't really see the need for it, although the car was quite attractive to me. Along the way, I looked at competitors.

Once, for informational purposes, my wife and I drove through the city salons to look at the crossovers. I really liked the Peugeot 3008, but it is a mono drive. In Toyota RAV 4, both sat down and left - not mine. I watched Renoshki Duster and Koleos. Well what can I say? I have ridden the Golf for several years now. If it were not for him, maybe Koleos could somehow like him. But Golf was. I also watched the Chevrolet Captiva and Opel Mokku and Antara. The captiva is not mine. Mocha too (I wouldn't take it even because of the name). Antara was more or less to my liking (it is very similar to a German car in almost everything, but still simpler). Just in case, I had it in mind, but did not like the size - too big. I will say right away - I do not like big cars, and my ideal could well be an all-wheel drive Golf. Even when I had a Transporter, I was very happy to change into my VAZ "four" when I had to go somewhere far away. Well, I'm just crazy about Golf. Therefore, I also looked at the Skoda Yeti, but even in the most expensive configuration inside it was simpler than my Golf Trendline, besides, for some reason, I could not find a comfortable position for myself while driving. Nevertheless, I had in mind this car too, but my wife categorically did not like it.

I am in a state of changing cars. I want Allroad, but I can’t keep up with the new one. While looking for a suitable option, I am considering a lot.

My wife and I were at the Q3 presentation, we looked.

The first impression is MALIPUSKA!
But, so that it would not be excruciatingly painful, after buying another car, my wife and I decided to test a new Kushka to clear their conscience.

I must say right away that the miracle did not happen. Of course, Audi, there is Audi, in the sense of a premium brand and a car created on the Tiguan platform should not be inferior to it. In general, the impression after the test remained very positive, although there were some comments.


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With a direct comparison of these two VAGs at the same time, it became obvious that Audi is not inferior to Folz in the size of the cabin. This is a paradox! I didn't measure it with a tape measure, but it feels like the Ku-3 salon is practically no less than Tiguanovsky's. The only thing that creates a cramped feel is the taller center console and darker headliner.
The trunk is immediately obvious less. It is not big in Tiguan either, but at least the native set of wheels fits there. But on Kuh, the trunk is smaller in height and the wheels will no longer fit vertically into it, even if the shelf is removed. The reason is that the Audi has a more sloping roof and a slope of the glass of the fifth door. The upper corner, which in Tiguan is almost standard, almost "square", is as if cut off.
The rear backrests fall without forming a step, but with a slight angle from the horizontal.
By the way, I liked the solution for ISO FIX fasteners. On the Tiguan, in order to "connect" a child seat, you need to crawl into a tight gap with your fingers and, having found the brackets there, aim and snap the holders. On the Kushka, the fasteners are brought out and are located in niches decorated with plastic. In the absence of a chair, the brackets are simply closed with lids and do not interfere in any way. The chair is easy to attach.
The seats on the back sofa are just as dofig as in the Tiguan. The only thing my kid complained about was that there were no tables (I don’t know if they are possible in the options?).


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Front furnishings.
The climate block has been slightly altered, but the camouflaged Tigovskaya base is easy to read. Strange, but the Audi climate seemed more noisy. At half speed, the fan is already quite intrusive. I think this is due to the better noise level of the cabin as a whole. That is, against the background of significantly better noise insulation of the cabin, the noise from the fan seems to draw more attention to itself.
Heated seats, in my opinion, seemed more simplified. On Tiguan, rollers with 5 divisions. There is one button on the Kushka, by pressing which you can successively "light up" 3 diodes. Well, on the other hand, three levels are probably really enough. I use levels 1, 2 and 5 on the Teague. The heating itself is fully appreciated. It was -18C outside with the wind. I often went out to take pictures of the car in different places, and I was dressed somehow in the autumn. Therefore, upon returning to the car, my priest was happy with the Oudevsky chair, which was heated to the maximum.
I liked the upholstery of the sports chairs. Alcantara is a thing !, keeps perfectly. The lateral support bolsters hug well. It's great that the electric chair allows you to adjust the angle of inclination of the seat.
With MMI figured out easily. Everything is intuitive and logical. Of course, there are many hidden functions. The display is large, hiding in the center of the front panel, where the Tiguan has just a niche. Moreover, the display does not have a drive. It is simply spring-loaded and when pressed, it slams or snaps off, opening on the "microlift". I removed it while driving, because It was more convenient for me to use the on-board computer screen located between the tachometer and the speedometer. The kid kept asking to get the display and turn on the TV, like on the Eight.

Sound ... disgusting!
Of course, someone before me has already clocked the timbres and set the subwoofer to the maximum ...
I went to the menu, set everything to zero. I put the disc, listened, added a subwoofer into three divisions - super!
No, of course I understand, comparing the simplest Tiguan audio system with a good regular many-lane Audevskaya is stupid. But here, without comparison, the sound in the Ku-3 is quite decent for such a compact car. Again, the overall cool stub plays a big role. I don’t know if I would order myself some kind of optional more advanced system. Against the background of the already familiar initial Tiguanovskaya, this one also made a very worthy impression. And chasing Hi-End in the car ... I have long gone through this stage of life.

Rulik.
Immediately, buzz! Smaller in diameter, more embossed. But lighter (in Comfort mode). When switching to Dynamic mode, it becomes a little tighter, but in general, rather more familiar to Tiguan. I would also add elasticity. I don't know if there was a Servotronic in the package, but I did not feel any difference when taxiing in parking lots and during dynamic driving.


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Car parking system.
The whole family clapped their hands and laughed when the car found its own pocket and, when driving backwards, immediately began to wield the steering wheel.
So, the thing is controversial. Razveshto, good for the first time, "for neighing". I'd rather order a rearview camera. By the way, I didn't like the fact that when you turn on the back, the music is immediately cut off. On the Teague, when the parking sensors are turned on, the music volume is cut off only by half and this is more convenient. And parking in complete silence is somehow not very comfortable, especially when a cool thing was playing and bam, it was unceremoniously chopped off. Fick knows, it can somehow be configured via MMI and it's a pity if not.


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How it goes.
Plague!!!
The wheels are slightly larger. Instead of the usual 235-55-R17, here is 235-50-R18. I expected the suspension to be stiffer and with more "low profile" wheels. Was paralyzed, as far as the suspension is SMARTER. It's amazing how they manage to combine the opposite. The car flew over pits, rails and other irregularities, as if on an air cushion, as if on air suspension in Comfort mode. And at the same time, excellent road holding, does not fall when maneuvering and steers very sharply.
Naturally, I liked the steering of the Audi better. I see several reasons for this. Lower center of gravity, lower rubber profile, more power and new Hakka-7 tires (I have a two-year-old Hakka-4).
At the same time, the Ku-3 under the thrust has an even more pronounced excessive turnover (in Russian speaking, under the gas, it brings in the stern more) than the Tiguan. It is clear that here the rear axle is connected by the same Holdex-4, as in Foltz. But as I understand it, they changed the gear ratio to the main gear in the box, and when the clutch is completely locked, a greater moment is transferred to the rear. This is also present in Tiguan, but not as clearly as in Ku-3.
The stabilization system works gently, stifles a skid already at the very end, allowing, if necessary, to turn around the front end, even on asphalt.
I definitely liked the brakes on the Audi better! But here the freshness of the rubber probably played a very significant role.


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Checkpoint.
I didn't understand what exactly was there, but the box works quickly and without jerks. There is enough drive even in normal D mode. And if you switch to S and stomp, then the car grinds with wheels somewhere up to 100 km / h.
The only thing that I did not understand was the algorithm of the "Start-Stop" system. In Comfort mode, I did not notice anything suspicious at all. And in Dynamic mode, after braking and stopping, as soon as you take your foot off the brake and if you don't immediately step on the gas, the engine sighs. It seems that somewhere there is an excess pressure accumulating, for an instant start, immediately after braking, but if you do not stomp forward immediately, then the pressure is released. Maybe everything happens there in a completely different way, but the sensations are like that.
And my engine sometimes turned off in the parking lots, when I went out to take a picture, I didn’t turn it off on purpose so that the “stove was fired”, but when I returned to the car, the engine was sometimes turned off. I didn't understand the principle by which it works like that. And I didn't even check the "Start-Stop" system forcibly, I didn't get my hands on it.
Throughout the test, with a very fast drive mode "Slipper to the floor" and constant operation of the engine in parking lots (except for a few moments when it was turned off by itself), the consumption was 19.5 l / 100 km. If you do not fry so fanatically, then I think, with a normal dynamic driving, as I drive a Tiga, the consumption of 2.0TFSI would be about 18 liters. And if you drive quietly, in the "Start-Stop" mode, then probably less than 16 liters will be kept.
But to be honest, such "economical" driving is not understandable and interesting to me. This car is made for the fun of driving! Usually, I drive quite calmly and safely. But where is there especially to drive something, on our roads clogged with traffic cars? But here it is so tasty that the leg itself presses on the gas.
By the way, because of the good noise, there is no usual feeling of speed. But before you have time to stomp, after a few seconds the speed limit bell (100 km / h) rings and the "CHO" sign looms on the board. The foot automatically releases the gas.


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Sincerely,
Alexey.

If you had compared the Audi Q 3 and the Volkswagen Tiguan of the first generations, the advantage would have remained for VW, since this car was technically stronger, and its exterior clearly indicated that this brutal car was for real men. Audi, on the other hand, was absolutely faceless: someone called him a shaved sleeper, someone thought that he was too soft and worthy of the attention of only a female. The nondescript design was one of the reasons for the decline in sales of this model. And in terms of technical progress, he clearly lagged behind his classmates. In 2019, the second generation Q 3 was born, and now the Tiguan is catching up with the competitor.

Exterior

Stylish and powerful - no one will say about the new Ku-three that this is a female crossover. He had a character, outwardly he became similar to the more mature Ku-eighth, and in some moments even surpasses it. Aggression appeared in the look of Ku-third: a large octagonal branded radiator grill, sharp frowned headlights, embossed sides, front pillars shifted back, a vertically raised windshield that gave the car a volume. Visually, this model looks very wide and the reason for this is the wavy stamping above the rear wheels. Thanks to this optical illusion, the developers managed to give the car power without changing the geometry of the body, leaving the rear pillars practically even and maintaining the size in the shoulders.

Against the background of such a handsome VW Tiguan, with its straightforwardness, it was completely lost. Perhaps this is a matter of time, because Tiguan is three years older than his competitor. Tiguan 2016 remained a strict German, who is not at all in the mood for adventures. It has a narrow, horizontally stretched radiator grille, which is in one line with rectangular headlights, an even hood with a small stamping. It was possible to give the car at least some aggression due to the design of the front bumper, where a clear zoning can be traced.

Ku-third looks much more massive than Tiguan, perhaps it's all about the smooth stamping of this model. The lines seem to flow from the almost flat hood through the side zone to the stern. Tiguan, on the other hand, remained faithful to his geometry and did not lose that strict angularity for which he was valued in the first generation. It does not have a single smooth line, only sharp edges and sides.

Comparing the Tiguan and the Audi Q 3 at the rear shows the superiority of VW. And although the sloping rear pillars and massive rear bumper gave the car an impressive look and showed its desire to move into the SUV class, the Ku-III still remains a sports crossover. Even the restyled version of the Audi Q 3 2017 looks heavier than the second generation of this crossover: previously, the taillights did not burst with the tailgate and moved to the sides. The rear optics are now more compact and accentuated by boomerang illumination. The emphasis in this model was transferred to the rear bumper, changing the shape of the air intakes and narrowing the side lights.

Tiguan 2017 looks lean. The taillights are re-illuminated in the shape of the letter "F" and delineated by a line of embossing that came from the doors. Not a hint of plumpness, everything, as befits a serious German. If its rival is aiming for sports records, then VW remains a workhorse. He does not have an additional spoiler, not a single protrusion, and against the background of a competitor, now he seems to be that "planed sleeper", as it was recently with Audi.

It is very difficult to choose an Audi Q 3 or Tiguan, focusing only on appearance. To emphasize the character of the vehicle, exterior packages are available in the individual configurator for each model. For example, Audi has S line trim, VW has four trim levels City, Sportline, Offroad and All sycludive. Those who prefer to focus on the technical parameters of the car, and not on its appearance, will be interested in the numbers.

Options	Audi q3	Tiguan
Body length, mm	4388	4486
Width, mm	1831	1839
Body height, mm	1608	1673
Wheelbase, mm	2603	2677
Clearance, mm
Front / rear wheel track, mm	1571/1575	1576 /1566
Own weight, kg		1636
		21 5/65 R17

Interior

In the choice of Audi Q 3 or V olkswagen Tiguanthe ergonomics of the passenger compartment is of great importance, because these cars are designed not only for city traffic, but also for long trips. It is important that the car is comfortable not only for the driver, but also for the passengers. And in this regard, perhaps, Tiguan is more interesting. In 2016, a seven-seater version of this model appeared, so onVWlarge families are increasingly being looked at. Audi remains a car that loves its owner.

The second generation Audi is the standard of style and design. Everything here is done as it should be for an expensive car. Starting from the layout of the front panel and ending with a completely digital control system for car functions - with such a filling, no one will doubt what to take, an Audi Ku3 or a Tiguan, as it was in the last generation, because it is immediately clear that the car is worth its money.

In the interior of Audi, the designers' passion for geometric shapes can be traced. The front console is divided into two zones: at the top are compact vents, and the bottom is given to the climate and multimedia control unit. The centerpiece is an 8.8-inch touchscreen monitor. For ease of operation, the display is tilted towards the steering wheel by 10 degrees. Even in the basic configuration, the Audi Ku-three has a digital instrument cluster with a diagonal of 10.25 inches, and an optional large 12.3-inch Virtual Cockpit screen is provided. The advantage of this model is the combination of different materials in the interior trim.

Sitting behind the wheel of a Volkswagen, you do not notice something fundamentally new and different. The interiors are very similar, the only difference is the design of the center console, which remains a classic monolith. As in Audi, in Tiguan the front panel and the transmission tunnel are used to the maximum, and the designers also did not forget to deploy all the working areas towards the driver.

If you compare the Q 3 with the Tiguan for driver comfort, then the Audi will be ahead. And this is not a feature of this model only, all cars of the brand differ in love for the owner. This is expressed in the ergonomics of the front row. The seats in the basic version are, of course, standard, but they also have deep lateral support and bumpers in the hip area. Who wants more can supply electrically adjustable sports seats. To prevent the driver from being distracted while driving, in the free access area there is a compartment for charging a smartphone with USB connectors, which acts as an antenna amplifier; between the seats - an ergonomic armrest with an additional compartment for small items.

The Tiguan, on the other hand, loves the driver and passengers alike. So many additional compartments for luggage and little things are not, perhaps, in any crossover. The glove box and bottle pockets on the doors are familiar accessories, but a hidden smartphone drawer to the left of the steering wheel, a storage compartment in the ceiling, niches under the front passenger seat, nets on the backrests, a small mesh pocket on the transmission tunnel near the left foot of the front passenger, cup holders in the folding armrest of the rear sofa - and this is not a complete list of what can be found in Volkswagen.

In the rear passenger row, even with a smaller wheelbase, the Audi is as comfortable as the Volkswagen. In the standard positions of the seats, the knees of the passengers do not rest on the front seats. Trumps Q 3 - longitudinal adjustment of the rear sofa by 15 cm and recesses for the knees in the backs of the front seats. At Tiguan, the sofa is also adjustable, but the molding of the side seats is imperfect: the right and left passengers constantly slide into the center. The disadvantage of both models is a high transmission tunnel at the feet, but all European cars are guilty of this.

The main disadvantage Volkswagen is a low roof, although the overall height of this car is higher than that of the competitor. Even in the lowest position of the seats, the driver and passengers almost rest against the ceiling. By choosing the panoramic roof option, the visual effect of the low ceiling is further enhanced.

VW is in the lead in terms of luggage compartment volume, which has 615 liters of usable volume in the five-seater version with the backrests up and 1655 with the backrests down. The back row folds in a ratio of 40:20:40 or 40:60. Audi's luggage compartment volume is more modest: 530/1525 liters, but using the longitudinal seat adjustment function, the base volume can be increased to 675 liters. What does this give in practice? Three large suitcases fit freely in the trunk of an Audi. Plus Ku-third - height adjustment of the boot floor, which allows you to completely remove the sills.

The lighting, the function of controlling the rear seat backs from the trunk, as well as opening the door of this compartment with one movement of the foot are functions that are available on both models.

Technical capabilities

At the base, Audi has a 1.4 engine with a manual transmission, and the Tiguan 2017 has a 1.4 engine with mechanics. They are installed on front-wheel drive versions. In the base with all-wheel drive, Audi has a 2.0 TFSI engine with an S tronic robot, while Tiguan has the same 1.4 only with a DSG gearbox.

Parameter	Audi q3	VW Tiguan
engine's type	35 TFSI manual transmission	CZCA
Volume, cm 3	1498
Valves per cylinder
Power, h.p.
Torque, Nm / rev. in min	250/1500 - 3500
Maximum speed, km / h
Acceleration time 100 km / sec.
Fuel consumption, city
Fuel consumption, route
Fuel consumption, mixed

Audi has a MacPherson strut in front and a four-lever in the back. With such a set, you don't expect a soft move, but it is there and even in excess, no worse than that of the Q 7, which is considered the ideal in the entire Q line. By experimenting with the configurator, you can opt for a stiffer sports suspension or pneumatics, but whether this is necessary for urban conditions remains unclear. The track will swallow everything, no matter what wheels you put on this car, but in conditions of measured driving and metropolis, it is better to stop at a base with standard 16 wheels.

The move of the first generation of the Ku-third was always compared with Tiguan and it was always noted that the Ingolstadt was still far from a competitor. Now the situation is changing, the Tiguan, with its jumps on every bump, even in light off-road conditions, remains on the sidelines. This does not mean that it shakes in the car, like on a cart, but the fifth point feels all the shocks. Volkswagen is a car that loves space. On the highway, she pleases the driver with a hard, stable ride, but the city is not for her, since even if it slows down in front of a speed bump, the car will not swallow him like an Audi, but push forward. The suspension of this model is similar to that of the competitor, only its settings are much worse.

In terms of driving stability, Audi is out of competition. This machine works to anticipate the driver's actions. Smooth road or serpentine, speed or moderate driving - in the Ku-third there is no vibration, no rolls, no slippage on wet asphalt or snow. Its wheels literally drive into the road surface, which is not very popular with drive enthusiasts.

According to the declared clearance, the cars are equal, but in fact they are higher than the Tiguan. This enables the vehicle to easily cope with minor irregularities. He is, of course, far away from an SUV, but it is quite possible for his family to go out into the countryside on it. The dimensions of the front and rear overhangs of VW are similar to those of Audi (896/908). It keeps the track well, it has all the main electronic safety and motion control systems: ABS, ESP, TCS traction control, HAC hill start assistant.

In terms of the number of driver assistants, active and passive safety systems, it is difficult to say which is better: the Audi Q 3 or the Volkswagen Tiguan. Even the initial versions of these vehicles with manual transmission show excellent driving qualities and are highly rated by Euro NCAP. These are cars that will be comfortable for both a beginner and a sophisticated car enthusiast. They have much more pluses than minuses, and the flaws are revealed more in design than in the technical part. These two Germans have been competing for more than 10 years and until now experts have not been able to identify the leader. If in the first generation, evaluating Audi, everyone said: "He's good, but here's a Tiguan ...", then in the second it happens exactly the opposite. The choice now depends on the purpose for which the car is purchased. If you want a car that will feel your every look, choose the Ku-third, if you need a car for a family that equally respects everyone who sits in it, then buy a Tiguan.