MK-Mobile, 02/05.
Last year, Land Rover showed a completely new Discovery, however, we will now talk about the more affordable first generation of this car, which has been produced from 1989 to 1998. Initially, Discovery was conceived as a cross between the too utilitarian Defender, which in its comfort can compare except with our "UAZ", and the luxurious Range Rover. Despite the fact that Discovery has opened a new market niche for the company Land Rover, there was nothing dramatically in this car. But he has a great advantage over his fellows - this is a relatively acceptable price that combined with a good level of comfort. And Discovery's permeability was at the level - here he inherited all the best from Defender. Including the landing of the driver - the seat is specially close as possible to the door, to better feel the dimensions of the car (it helps it in the city, allowing you to squeeze into the gap between the machines, leaving the gaps of millimeters).
As for competition with similar SUVs of other firms, then Discovery had, perhaps, the chief trump card. This is the name of the manufacturer. In the late 80s, the Land Rover brand was already promoted very seriously, and many motorists believed that this company produces the world's best car off-road. And here you need to immediately warn - buy a used Land Rover Discovery only because of the glorious halo of the off-road conqueror is not worth it. By the way, you do not need to take this car and because of its low price. Otherwise, you can get seriously disappointed both in the Discovery itself, and in all Land Rover brand.
Rust happens white!
The overwhelming majority of the Land Rover Discovery of the first generation have a familiar 5-door body. However, the British were made by 3-door cars, which, however, used not the greatest demand (as a result, after 1998 they stop producing). Discovery is based on the most powerful frame, which is rightfully considered to be eternal. The body of the car is not at all aluminum, as very often you can hear. It is steel, and from the "winged" metal made only the hood, front and rear wings, as well as outdoor lining on the doors (iron doors themselves). It is believed that the use of aluminum completely removes the problem of natural body destruction. But the owners of Land Rover Discovery can only skeptically smisly by reading these words. They know that the body iron of their cars some places, where aluminum concerns ordinary steel (this is just about the door), it begins to actively oxidize. At the same time, the metal is covered in a kind of white scale, and then at all begins to crumble - sometimes you can even move the piece of outdoor doors with your hands. That is why when buying a Discovery of the first generation, you must first of all inspect the front door (where it is in contact with the metal part), all edges of other doors and other "dangerous" places. And in the future, when traces of oxidation, it is necessary not to pull the rubber and contact the service where there are special putty and primers.
There are aluminum and one more disadvantage, which manifests itself only in the event of accidents. The fact is that aluminum requires more painstaking recovery of rimpled elements, and often the rattovka is not possible at all. And then you have to look for iron on "disassembly" or buy new details. The price of the latter, as you understand, considerable. For example, the wing is worth about $ 290 (for not original). But if you need to replace a new bumper ($ 320), you can go to cunning and buy in stores specializing in SUVs, very strong steel tuning bumpers that cost from $ 900 to $ 1.5 thousand. At the same time, such bumpers already have places for the installation of winch and Additional optics, as well as Kangurin.
Equipment of Land Rover Discovery is usually rich enough. Although the three-door versions of the first years of release were absolutely "empty." SUVs with five doors are required to have the necessary electrically required for a comfortable ride. The richest equipment that appeared after restyling 1994 is called ES. According to its "frills", such Discovery can even compete with Range Rover (salon decorated with leather and wood, there is a powerful musical system, climate installation, etc.). By the way, in the first years of the car of the air conditioner in the basic equipment was not, but after the modernization it appeared on all Discovery. Inside the Discovery place is not so much, as it may seem at first glance. Despite the impressive dimensions, they are not particularly walking in the cabin. Although it is not going to call him close language, even the haters of the British car industry.
The quality of the Land Rover salon assembly can be called good, but on cars which has already been 10 years old and more all sorts of buildings are a normal phenomenon. Also on old cars sometimes begins to "bug" an electrician. This is mainly due to bad contacts, but the owner is not easier from this - such trifles, usually, very annoying. So if when buying a car, it is noted that some lantern or stop signal works, then it may have to suffer from the electrician. Driving power windows on the first generation discovery to date may also stop work. The reason for this lies usually in cut gear in the drive or (occasionally) in the electronic unit itself. In the latter case, the purchase of a new part will cost $ 160 (on the disassembly they can sometimes be found for $ 50-70). The owners of Land Rover Discovery made up to 1995 complain about the poorly working "stove", which first begins to blow barely even at high speed, and then ceases to fulfill their duties. The electric motor is to blame for this, but it is necessary to change the whole stove assembly. And this is $ 500 for the detail plus another $ 250-300 for work (for this you have to remove all torpedoes). However, on the motor, you can safely save, putting the item from our "eight" for $ 10 (at the same time you will have to cut a tiny piece of plastic from the car, although it turns out not always).
And I want to ourselves
In the overwhelming majority of cases, Land Rover Discovery has either gasoline "eight" with a volume of 3.5 liters. or 3.9 liters or 2.5-liter turbodiesel. However, not everyone knows that under the hood Discovery also installed a 4-cylinder gasoline engine with a volume of 2.0 l., Which was given 136 hp. Perhaps the only advantage of such cars is that their "customs clearance" is cheaper. As the experience of operating such SUVs shows, the resource of the 2.0-liter unit is the lowest compared to the rest of the motors, and it is also clearly not enough.
If I want to save on fuel, it is better to look for a much more reliable diesel engine, which in city ride requires 100 km. Runs about 10-13 liters. Soynery. Despite the fact that the diesel volume has always been 2.5 liters., Until 1994, such Discovery had the designation of 200TDI, and then they began to call 300TDI. Over time, diesel gave 107 hp, and since 1995, thanks to the new system, 113 hp (Sometimes it is indicated 111 hp). It is clear that Disel Discovery does not shine with dynamic characteristics (acceleration 0-100 km / h is the endless 18.5 seconds), but this motor loves for reliability, unpretentiousness and excellent traction at Nizakh. For off-road driving, the last factor is of great importance. Naturally, when buying Discovery 200TDI or 300TDI, you need to carefully check the operation of the turbine and inspect it from all sides (it is better to trust the master specializing in diesel engines). After all, if the turbine is at death, the purchase of used will cost a decent money - about $ 400 (as a new one is asked from $ 800).
In addition, the driver of the car must remember that the Land Rover diesel engine requires only high-quality consumables (the filters are better to take only the original). Sometimes diesel engines overheat, which may eventually lead to a fairly sad end - in such cases, the cylinder head is usually under the replacement (repairs in total pulls by $ 1.7 thousand). It is necessary to immediately say that, if doubt the reliability of the power unit from buying a car, it is better to refuse, because the overhaul here is very big money (for example, the new crankshaft pulls $ 900).
But still, more often on the secondary market there are Discovery with a V8 gasoline engine. The first years of the release of the G8 had a volume of 3.5 liters, and the power system consisted of two carburetors (152 hp), but since September 1993, Discovery began to equip a 3.9-liter injection engine (182 hp .). These horses are already enough for a confident ride not only on dirt, but also in the city. Moreover, the drivers of such cars especially appreciate even the possibility without any special problems accelerate over 150 km / h, and the reserve of traction in the entire turn range, which can only give a large engine in terms of volume. But it is not recommended to install speed records on Discovery. This is a classic SUV, which is simply not created to pass turns with the rear axle. And often such frills end in the revolution of the car.
The V8 gasoline engine is considered to be quite reliable. But there are enough complaints about it, so that the power unit should be checked with special care. According to the masters, sometimes the gasoline "eight" requires serious repairs already when running about 100 thousand km. Usually it is necessary to eliminate the backstage of the camshaft that appeared that, together with Remkomplekt and the work, it costs about $ 500-900 (after that, however, the camshaft is no longer delivered).
The car radiators are also required (on some machines they are already four pieces), since they on our roads are quite quickly clogged with mud and down, which significantly worsens their performance. Butter and filters, of course, it is necessary to change strictly according to the instructions, and on our roads it is desirable and a little earlier than the prescribed period. By the way, during the installation of a new gasoline filter, buying one filter ($ 20), as a rule, it cannot be separated. Experience shows that it is best to immediately have a remptomplekt benzofilter ($ 65), since the old one, for sure, cannot be unscrewed. But nevertheless, the main disadvantage of the V8 gasoline engine is called its very high fuel consumption. Of course, a lot depends on the driver, but practice shows that with a more or less active ride in the conditions of the city for every 100 km. It takes about 18-25 liters. So buying a used Discovery V8 needs to be carefully counted, but whether there is enough money for its content, because in addition to the fuel costs, the owner periodically will have to carry out any minor work on the repair / maintenance of the power unit and its attachments. For example, often in spare parts stores, the fuel pump is asked, which is worth $ 155 in the original performance.
Take care of your balls
If the car is most of time exploited in the city, then as a gearbox, it is better to choose a 4-speed "automatic" production of the famous German company ZF. Although it requires a little large service costs, but is more reliable. It is except that sometimes on the rolled copies that have traveled a lot of off-road, there is a slotted connection between the "distribution" and the box itself. At the same time, it is often necessary not only to disassemble the mechanisms, but also change the intermediate shaft of the "automaton" and the gear of the input shaft from the "Distribution". In general, this repair is quite decent ($ 500). By the way, it can also be happening with the "mechanics" (in this case, the replacement is the secondary shaft of the PPC ($ 900 - 1400).
Manual boxes are two types. The first is denoted by LT77 (such a gearbox was set until 1995). It is considered more reliable, but the later R380 appeared with a synchronized rear transmission may be problems. Already in 70-100 thousand km. The mileage can fail the synchronizers (usually the first and fifth gear is stopped first. Repairs in this case will require more than $ 500. To determine which type of "mechanics" is set pretty simple - if the rear is turned on right and down, then it means that it is R380, and if left-up - LT77. By the way, you need to immediately warn you finding the cheap used boxes on the market is very difficult. The average price for the "live" used "mechanics" is $ 1-1.2 thousand (with a guarantee).
The big plus of Land Rover Discovery is that it is equipped with a constant full drive system that does not need to include when entering off-road. In addition, there is an interstitial differential and a lower transmission, but the intercoles in standard equipment, alas, no. The dispensing box does not demonstrate the wonders of reliability - it often happens, and the owner of the car must constantly monitor the oil level (if it should be ride without it for a short time, then you will have to buy a new "distribution"). If the deputy box glands flows very actively, then you can also put new ones - it will cost about $ 300. Capable to throw unpleasant surprises and other elements of the full drive system: may fail the gearbox, the inter-axis differential, kartan crossmen, etc.
It has repeatedly stated that Discovery was originally designed as an SUV. Therefore, he has no complex independent suspensions that allow you to improve the smoothness of the stroke and handling. Instead of them, in front and behind, there are tough beam bridges that provide excellent permeability and high reliability. However, the suspension and steering car still requires periodic financial injections. And considerable. For example, the weak point of the first generation of Discovery are the front large swivel balls, which over time are covered with scratches and small chops. This often leads to an accelerated wear of the anther, and dirt and moisture begins inside the ball. It is worth a slightly ride on such a car, as the balls themselves will go under the replacement, but also the shrus, the wheel bearing, etc. And this will require about $ 500-900 for each wheel! The cost of replacing one turning ball with spare parts is about $ 250. By the way, you need to even remember that in the balls it is necessary to periodically pour oil (until 1995 it is an ordinary transmission, and then a special lubricant appeared).
The second place to pay attention to is the hydraulic gearbox. It flows on very many Land Rover various models made in the 80s - the first half of the 90s. It must be said that if some service promises to repair the gearbox without his disassembly, then it's better to leave there, because the glands replaced there will swell, most likely, very quickly. So what to say how much the repair of the gearbox costs, it's quite difficult with the go, but you usually need to prepare for costs in the amount of $ 300-600. More serious chronic diseases in the running Discovery seems to be no. But there are minor. So, periodically appears the backlash in the bearings of the front hubs, but it costs it relatively inexpensively - $ 55 together with work. After run 100 thousand km. The shock absorbers are often wearing ($ 75 for the original with work). But the failure of the sensors of the ABS can be equated yet to serious costs - the non-original part costs $ 180 (over time, the sensors have wiring).
Operation of the Used Land Rover Discovery of the first generation may require decent financial costs. Despite the glorious name, Discovery has a number of weak points. And the repair of the car is usually decent. However, there are many people who are willing to put up with the cons of Discovery. They are attracted not only by the brand of the SUV, shrouded in legends, but also the fact that around the world, Land Rover cars are considered machines for drivers who know their price and are able to not succumb to all sorts of fleeting modes of fashion. That is why Land Rover Discovery is often referred to as a real English gentleman.
Excursion
In 1947, the development of the first SUV brand Land Rover began in England, who had to become an assistant for local farmers in their difficult work. The new car managed to do enough quickly and already at the end of April 1948 at the Amsterdam car dealement took place the debut of the first Land Rover. By the way, the cost of an SUV at the end of the 40s was 450 pounds of sterling in the UK, which was not so much for the car.
Initially, the Land Rover SUVs (subsequently the first model of the company received the name Defender) was an extremely utilitarian means of movement. However, later it became clear that many people need not just to drive through the mud, but to do it with comfort. And in 1970, Range Rover was shown. And in 1989 another model appeared, which occupied an intermediate position between Defender and Range Rover. It was Land Rover Discovery.
First, Land Rover Discovery had only a 3-door body, but then 5-door machines appeared. The car was equipped with 3.5 liter gasoline engines, as well as a 2.5-liter diesel engine.
In 1991, the first slight restyling model was held. A little later in 1994, Discovery has undergone another modernization (such cars can be distinguished by a different dashboard). In the same 1994, instead of an engine with a volume of 3.5 liters. Under the hood of the car began to install a 3.9-liter gasoline motor, by the way, it is worth noting that in the period from 1992 to 1995, Land Rover Discovery was sold in Japan. And he was called Honda Crossroad.
In 1998, the second generation of Land Rover Discovery was shown. Externally, the first and second Discovery is very similar to each other. However, the car made after 1998 got rid of many shortcomings that were inherent in the first generation. It should also be noted that electronics began to master in the full drive system, although a lot of complaints came to it later. Land Rover Discovery II was equipped with a 3.9-liter gasoline engine V8 (185 hp), as well as a 2.5-liter 5-cylinder diesel (137 hp).
In 2002, the second generation Discovery was seriously modernized. According to representatives of the English company, hundreds of changes were made to the design, although the appearance of the car remained almost the same.
And in 2004, a fundamentally new Land Rover Discovery appeared on the light, which has nothing to do with predecessors. The new SUV began to establish a 4.4 liter Jaguar Motor V8. (295 hp) and 4.0-liter unit V6 (215 hp). There is also a 2.7-liter diesel V6. The last engine, by the way, was developed jointly by Ford and PSA specialists (we recall that since 2000, Land Rover has passed under the control of Ford).
Denis Smolyanov
02/2005
At the time of the debut of the Land Rover Discovery of the second generation, SUVs still knew how much useful. Such cars were purchased not for the sake of emotions, but for real trips outside the highway. From here and the valor who was famous for soughs from the 90s.
Discovery 2 is much smaller than his rivals from Japan. However, not everyone needs a huge car.
At the same time, customers wanted their cars to be at least a little civilized - allowed to comfortably overcome long-distance routes. These two, at first glance, contrary to each other characteristics and tried to combine the British. As a result, a Land Rover Discovery was turned out, which was more cultural than a defenter, but less luxurious than Range Rover.
Initially, Land Rover and did not think about creating another generation Discovery, deciding to limit the usual update. But the modernization was so deep that it was decided to count the model for the next generation. Changes affected many areas. The body was almost completely recycled, with the exception of minor details. In the first disco, the whole body, not counting the roof, was made of aluminum. The successor also received steel doors.
Discovery 2 became longer than 18 centimeters, most of which went to an increase in the trunk. But the main drawback remained - a small wheelbase (only 254 cm). However, on the rear highly installed seats are not as closely. Additional centimeters over their heads were carved, slightly raising the roof. However, high passengers may experience discomfort, since the eyes turn out to be at the level of the bulkhead between the door and side ceiling windows. Another problem is narrow doors.
Among the proposals, you can meet 7-seater modifications. The third row is not too comfortable. But for short distances, it will be completely coming. True, if you do not use it for a long time, the backs of folding chairs cease to be recorded in the right position.
Wealth and aristocracy
It is not difficult to find richly equipped with copies on the market. Still, this car bought British aristocrats to ride a hunt. Inside can be found: leather upholstery, climate control, audio system Harman Kardon, cruise control and full "electropacket", including electric drives.
Restyled models (after 2002) are characterized by double-round reflectors of the front optics (instead of one rectangular), new rear lamps, recycled brakes (though, their effectiveness has not changed), thicker rails, improved acoustic comfort (at the expense of new door seals, Silent blocks, second graduation silencer and less noisy disassembly).
Everything is good while working
One of the curious elements of the Land Rover Discovery 2 is a full drive system. Its "modernization" is a real puzzle and proof of full chaos, which is working in the time of design work.
The torque is transmitted constantly on all four wheels through the inter-sieve differential. Approximately 2001, blocking was installed, but lacked the lever for its inclusion. To activate, I had to leave the salon. Fortunately, the connection itself was not complicated. However, in 2001, the blocking was seized from the list of equipment and returned only at the very end - in 2004. This time, with full-fledged civilized management.
The car, in accordance with the status of the SUV, is equipped with two hard bridges. Classical solutions guarantee reliability, strength and good opportunities on the ground, but worse manifest itself on asphalt coatings. In Discovery II, in all conditions, the challenges does not occur, especially in the presence of self-leveling SLS suspension. The steering is fairly accurate, and the manageability is definitely better than Mitsubishi Pajero.
Behind the wheel, discovery is difficult to get rid of the feeling that the center of gravity is too high, and the car is about to the tip. But not with the bizarre and useful ACE system (Active Cornering Enhancement) is a hydraulic system of controlling stabilizers. Thanks to her, "disco" has great movements of the suspension on the off-road, and when moving along the motorway, the body is not very cubed.
Ace, like pneumatic bullons from behind - option. Combines both systems one: low reliability. In the case of ASA, the hydraulic pump fails, or fluid flows. In pneumatics, the problem delivers a compressor or a prudged pillow.
Those who are planning to take advantage of the British SUV on purpose, specialists recommend dismantling the complex suspension elements and establish conventional springs. There are enough tuning sets on the market, ranging from shock absorbers and ending with springs designed for various loads. Sellers, pointing in ads the word "springs", thereby make it possible to understand that in this instance of the above defects will not be. As for the metal-rubber elements of the chassis, they differ in uncommon strength.
Engines
Among the proposals most of the market occupy diesel versions with the TD5 engine. It has five cylinders, but only four incandescent candles. The direct fuel injection is carried out by electronically controlled pump-nozzles. Such Discovery consumes about 10-11 l / 100 km and provides performance below the expected. SUV heavy and not aerodynamic. More than a 2-ton disco with a 4-speed automaton accelerates to hundreds for infinite 20 seconds. In addition to automatic transmission, the Briton was completed with 5-speed mechanics. By the way, both boxes should be carefully checked before buying. In the event of a malfunction, the repair will be expensive.
TD5 has nothing to do with BMW, as it is considered, but is a continuation of the development of an old Diesel Rover L. Its real problem is the complete absence of new nozzles for cars 1999-2001 of the issue corresponding to the Euro-2 standard. In later modifications, TD5 complies with Euro-3 standards, and new nozzles can be purchased at a price of 15,000 rubles per piece. So, if you are interested in the diesel version, then only after 2002. For TD5, it is characteristic: the failure of the fuel pressure regulator, the bypass valve in the supervision system, the weakening of the oil pump bolts (leads to a pressure drop in the lubrication system), and the need to periodically replace the nozzle control detergent. The fuel pump is beaten with age. Expensive damage to the head of the cylinder block or gasket leads to mixing oil with coolant. The main thing is to check the oil dipstick and look under the cover of the filling neck of the oil into the engine, in the coolant tank and the radiator to make sure there are no characteristic deposits (impurities).
Such problems completely bypassed gasoline modifications with V8 of 4.0 and 4.6 liters. Both engines also have British roots. In the past, the owners faced the premature wear of the liners and head of the block. Currently, many gasoline aggregates are redone for work on liquefied gas.
All motors have a chain type timing type. Among the general problems can be noted oil leakage from under the camshaft seals. Considering the age of the model, flowing from the engine seals and transmission is a common phenomenon. Moreover, even during the warranty service, the German services recorded all sorts of oil leaks about half of the disco.
Myths or suffering?
Fans of SUVs are conventionally divided into two camps. Some believe that there is nothing better than the "Japanese" led by Land Cruiser, and Land Rover is the worst brand in the world. Others, consider exactly the opposite. Nevertheless, Land Rover Discovery 2 aged will be more costly than Japanese SUVs. The Briton has an unusual design and needs specialized service. As for consumables, everything is available and rather cheap. Specific equipment will require serious investment. For example, a pneumatic suspension compressor (about 45 000 rubles) or an AAC system valve block (28,000 rubles).
Among the typical faults of the elderly DISCO, the electronic pedal failure can be noted, wear of the hinges of the cardan shaft, the jams of the door locks and the trunk lid, failure the ABS sensors and the contamination of electrical contacts. And how many troubles at one time delivered an immobilizer, sensitive to the effects of external interference sources. Power lines, radio signal control of the garage doors and the similar one once was paralyzed by an SUV. Fortunately, to launch the engine, it was enough to move the car meters for 200. Sometimes rainwater penetrates into the salon. Shallow smell must alert you.
Giving for a decent dyskovery 400-450 thousand rubles, it is necessary to be prepared for investments in the amount of 50,000 rubles. This is a starting package for a car diligently serviced in a specialized workshop. SUVs with dubious past will require higher costs.
Conclusion
So is it worth afraid of Land Rover Discovery 2? Maybe. First, he needs special care. Secondly, some components are not available. The English SUV is a car with a special character that does not save on the road. However, find a well-kept instance will not be easy.
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V8, it would seem that there should be eternal - these are old aluminum lower motors with pusher pushers with very modest forcing (188-225 hp), in full compliance with the American tradition (Rover V8 line is based on the American Buick 215 1960). However, these "eights" - an example is rarely unsuccessful in the structures of the design, which could be relatively easy to be improved, but it never happened.
- Approximately 2000, Rover V8 tritely satisfied the sleeves, "slipping" from the cylinder block down to the crankshaft. It happened on different runs, depending on the mode of operation, but more than 300 thousand motors without kapitals were rarely walked. 46 (with an increased piston running and, accordingly, longer sleeves) drawdown happened on average faster, sometimes 150 thousand. What did the British do? Modified the cylinder block by adding a "step". The sleeves stop stopped, but another problem got out.
- Motors after 2000 eventually began to easily arise the microcracks of the block in the walls under the sleeves. At the same time, the hot exhaust gases in the area of \u200b\u200bthe joint of the block with the GBC penetrated into the space between the sleeve and the block, and then in the cooling shirt. The resulting overheating crushed the motor for several thousand kilometers without visible causes.
- As a cherry on the cake - knocking piston skirts, almost like the sadly famous Volkswagen CFNA.
- As a result, British V8 can serve the "half a million" or more only after high-quality capitals with the replacement of the sleeves on the modified, with the flange (Flanged Liners). They not only do not find it, but also almost exclude the risk of exhaust gas penetration into the space between the block and the sleeves.
- Another headache of the owner of the machine with the V8 is the control system of the distributed injection of the GEMS of the joint production of Lucas and Sagem. The system is distinguished not only by weak wiring and expensive consumables, but also sensitivity to voltage drops (for example, due to the failover of the generator) and all sorts of interference (for example, from the LAM). Fortunately, in 1999, a year after the release of Disco Series II, the Lucas products refused to favor Bosch Motronic M5.2.1, noticeably more successful. The engine with Gems is easy to learn along a large longitudinally located black plastic box with the rotation of the engine volume in relevant above the engine.
- Diesels 2.5 TD5, as already mentioned, these are rover top five. The fact that the engine from BMW is a popular misconception. BMW M51, 6-cylinder diesel engine of the same volume, put on the Range Rover P38 of the same years. Cheaper Disco left British diesel, at that time a very progressive, with an electron-controlled injection from Lucas and a mega-popular GARRETT GT20 turbine (also known under the Allied Signal brand), launched on Diesel engines VW, Volvo, Ford, Renault, Mercedes-Benz and Others.
- Until 2000, the motors suffered from problems with the oil pump and the GBC, however, by now they are all eliminated. In 2003 with restyling, the engines received the EGR valve (remember about the timely cleaning), but it did not reach the diesel particulate filters.
- From the popular problems - leakage oils from gaskets (only in 2002, the GBC gasket became metallic), the leaks of the radiator, the breakdown of the fuel pump (the resource is very different - someone changed to 100 thousand, someone went and 300), sensor breakdowns , Wear the damper damper of the crankshaft (50 euros) ... In short, not the most reliable motor, however, a frank crime, as with gasoline V8, is not observed. The piston group of problems does not deliver, the resource of the chain timing is more than 250 thousand for sure.
- Details for diesel engines for modern standards inexpensive, but there are questions about availability. Turbines (about 300 euros) and fuel pumps (about 200 euros) are available new and even in stock, but nozzles for 40 euros per piece (recovered), most likely, have to be ordered from Ebay from England.
Well, friends, I decided to write a review about my Discarika. So gentle I call my Land Rover Discovery 2 Series.
My name is Nikolai. I myself live in the southern capital of Kazakhstan, in Alma-Ata. Auto drove from America in 2007. I am in Kazakhstan the second owner.
I had a lot of SUVs before it. And somehow my movie Camel Trophy got on my eyes. Well, looked, well, I thought it was all on it. But no damn. Something inside. And as a regular man in the street, who believed that Land Rover was a "cluster trash", began to honor the forums, watch video, etc. Interest 80 motorists believe that LR is a complete sucks with its free-sized electronics, a closure and expensive service. I will not prove anything to anyone. I will say one, the lion's part of the dissatisfied LR, these are people who have never exploited it. Well, okay, finish with lyrics.
And so, the last in front of the LR SUV I was SURF 1997 in with a 2.7 engine. I traveled on it exactly a year. Well, not my car, I did not bother into it! Thought about changing the horse. I met an old friend and he turned out to be LR Discovery 2 with Diesel 2.5 He suggested riding the disco wheel. I sat in him, damn, everything is different somehow, I got used to the Japanese. Gave a circle on the territory of the base, drove on the road, a little used. They chatted with him, climbed into the surf and moved further on business. Food and feeling pipets, uncle, you arrived! After dischard it is not at all! In short, the LR is seriously ill.
Let's shove the ads, call, watch. There was nothing suitable. They came across just dead cars in all angles. Got upset. And somehow the announcement website saw this white miracle. Total 3 photos. Auto 2000, but he was located in the city of Temirtau, it is 1200 km from Almaty. There is no live. Let's bomb the bodies of the host, seek what yes as. Phone - telephone, you need to watch. Found a friend 30 km from Temirtau. He agreed to drive and watch the machine. Damn, there was a sleepless night. To the day after the next day, a friend called. I say: "What's there with a car?" He said only one phrase: "There would be money, I bought!" Everything, damn, was an explosion of emotions! I call the owner and begging to wait a week. In short, I waited for me for 2 weeks, answering calls from me once every 5 per day. Surf put up for sale, but this is a long thing, and Discork is waiting. Went to bow to the chief. He listened to me, twisted my finger at the temple, said: "Yes, you ... talked on the whole head! How can I buy a car in the photo?" In short, I left upset. In the evening, the chef called, and said I would come in the morning for money. EU !!! I called the owner, said that I found money. Playing was night, I did not sleep at all. In the morning I drove into the office, took the money, (the low bow of the chief) then rushed to the train station for flight tickets. We decided to go with the son together. My wife had a hysteria, I thought me crazy. But nevertheless, after dinner, the wheels had already knocked out and the car carried on to the north, to Karaganda. We arrived at 9 am. Cold. April 3, strong wind. Released on the stationary area. Discarika I immediately saw in the parking lot. Damn, white handsome was stood out of a gray crowd of cars. The owner with a friend was at the car. Let's go to Temirtau, from Karaganda this is about 30-35 km, it seems. I sat on the passenger seat, son behind. When not driving, you do not feel much. I merged to the city, climbed the whole car, everything arranged, hit the hands and forward, remove from accounting. Paper cases finished 3 o'clock day. Thought to go home in the morning, but intense! Moved after 4. After inspection, I first gotten for his steering wheel!
And here we were touched. The first impression is that !!! Under the hood 8 Vedes and 4 liters. volume. Ohnet! Dynamics are not transmitted! In short, we go, kaifuh and son.
Ergonomics at height, all at hand, everything is thought out to the smallest detail. All somehow aristocratic, clean everything in English. Salon leather, 2 Luke, rear pneuma - this is generally a song! The only thing that strained is not proportionate to the mirror machine. But I'm already used to it. Poured full tank. Running forward. I will say, at 1168 km of the back of the way back, we made only 110 liters of gasoline !!!
Leaves from Temirtau, slipped in fast Karaganda and flew to the track. Discarik revealed here. I could not believe that a frame SUV, with continuous bridges can keep the track so much! The steering wheel listens great. Resistance at altitude due to the rear pocket suspension. V8 is a thing !!! Accelerated awesome, it is very useful when you need to quickly overtake. We got to Alma-Ata in 15 hours. We returned tired, but satisfied as cats, embraced sour cream.
Benefni dyskarika began. It happened so that the service car fell into an accident and I had to work on discharging a month. Honestly, I am thrilled from driving around the city on it. Mega seat comfortable with Eletro drive, co-jew. Overview at height. Do not get tired at the wheel at all. Yes, and on the road somehow relative to respect.
When I took the car, she did not work as ABS and, accordingly, TC is a traction control. I have discrica without blocking disassemble. Only TC Shuttle Valve shuttle valve did not work on the ABS block. And one of the wheel sensors ABS was faulty. On the shuttle valve made a jumper, replaced the non-working sensor. Everything worked!
Summer came, we moved to fishing. Route - Kayf on Discarius, turned on off-road, 55 km from salt marshes. Pneumon is perfectly eaten bumps. Before leaving home, a strong shower was held and the salt marsh was removed. In short, 55 km of "soap" were provided. And I have the usual housing tires. In short, that he soldered on the mud, it is fantastic !!! Pneuma, raising cars by 12 cm and TS Great thing! No blocking is not necessary. In general, along the way, 2 stuck Prado and 1 Pajero. Then a few hours later, these stuck guys caught up with us and one with Pradik was very surprised, on which wheels I drove Solonchak. His friend said: "But what is surprised? This is dyskovery! "
I myself was shocked. On fishing, we usually drive with you a boat and a motor. For this there is a trailer. So Discarik does not feel it at all. Duri enough. When turning on the turn on the panel, the green silhouette of the trailer is pleasantly blinking, reminding that the truck is behind. Trace consumption with a trailer about 13 liters. I installed Multitrinics on-board computer, it accurately shows fuel consumption. Someone will say that V8 is a big gasoline consumption, but I am a buzzer on the passes with a trailer, not straining and ready to pay for it! And who wants to turn and smoke on a weak motor - the flag in the hands!
I had one trouble with Discarik. It is guilty myself. Arriving from fishing saw a twig sticking out in the radiator. Well, pulled, thread antifreeze. Mlya, good at home. Rellenged the gap. I did not want to solder. I ordered a Belgian Nissens radiator, the new one is new, came in just 2 weeks. The price is ridiculous, $ 215 along with delivery. For 2 years of ownership Discarik, it was the most difficult breakdown. Ugh 3 times !!!
A year later, 2 front lambda probe was denied. We have 100% in the city. I ordered from England for only $ 96 and this is both! Also in the first winter began to leak the brake fluid tank. Replaced. The price of a question is $ 65.
For the winter I have a second set of rubber on the disks R18. Summer - R16. In winter, super is super on it. The ice holds as nailed, he warms just very quickly. In the summer of Condishn - one pleasure! In short, the machine is thought out to the smallest detail! Praise english engineers !!! The machine is very unpretentious and indisputable. Yes, there is nothing to kill! The most important thing is the timely service and the replacement of all consumables M to not spoke skeptics - Land Rover is Land Rover !!! The next will be Discovery 3.
Diesel engine 2.7 TD possessed both models, and Discovery 3, and Discovery 4. This engine was installed on Discovery 3 throughout the entire period of its release, i.e. From 2005 to 2009, on Discovery 4 - in the period from 2010 to 2012.
Diesel engine 2.7 TD is a row V-shaped six, a six-cylinder engine, respectively, in a diesel version with one turbine. That is, one turbine with a variable geometry is installed on this engine.
What features this engine has. The engine is not the most reliable, but unfortunately in 90% of cases in the discovery 3d space you will observe it. The first problem of this engine, which, in principle, experiences each owner of this model is the EGR valve, i.e. Exhaust gas recycling valve. On this engine directly two of them: the left valve and the right valve. As the service practice shows the EGR valve, on average somewhere for two years, after which it needs to be changed, because on the instrument panel lights up the hanging check.
The second malfunction of which possesses this engine is a blank air nozzle that is installed on the throttle body. This pipe becomes oak and it simply bursts, as a result of what, respectively, you get the registration code for insufficient supervision. The exhaust pipe goes smoke, and, accordingly, the indication of the engine malfunction on the instrument panel. Therefore, this nozzle must be changed in a timely, at least once every 2-3 years without waiting for it to burst.
2.7 TD engine fuel equipment Unfortunately no particular reliability and often happens so on the run after 150,000 km, you bring the registration of the R0087 code to the service, namely low fuel pressure. As a rule, the registration of this code occurs due to the mechanical malfunction of the high pressure fuel pump (TNVD). It is this pump that creates the highest pressure that is necessary for the normal operation of the diesel engine. In addition to the pump, there are six more injectors of three for each side and directly the fuel ramps themselves, but in addition to this, the submersible pump is installed in the tank.
In case the high-pressure fuel pump fails and since our system has a fuel drain line, i.e. Excess fuel falls back to the tank, then it usually falls into the tank already with wear products, namely with a metal chip. In this case, you will have to remove the fuel tank, rinse the fuel equipment, change the submersible pump, which is installed in the tank, because rinse directly the submersible pump itself from chips, you simply cannot. We will have to install a new TNVD, we will recommend installing new fuel ramps, because it is also impossible to rinse them. And only then we will start to perform the control launch of the DVS. In the event that it will work perfectly and recording the code will not be, then we will give you such a car as a customer. In 10% of the probabilities of cases, it will be necessary to replace the engine control unit, the so-called PCM.
Fighting low fuel pressure, if you do it in human for myself, it is really expensive and can do you somewhere about 200,000 rubles. If you plan to leave the car and exploit further, then such a repair can be carried out in principle and the next few years to themselves the fuel equipment and the fuel system will not be asked.
Turbocharger on the engine 2.7 TD has a function of changing geometry, i.e. You have installed an actuator, a drive and correspondingly moving cassettes that are responsible for the productivity of the direct turbocharger, i.e. Responsible for how much you need to promote the turbine.
Unfortunately, these drives also have a problem or a problem with the actuator, or the geometry directly occurs, or fails the turbine. It is not on every second car, but it is often found, perhaps due to the fact that the car is really not the first freshness. So malfunctions with turbines can not be excluded too.
Bypass pipe that connects two exhaust manifolds, because Engine V-shaped six, then, accordingly, there is a left graduation collector and the right exhaust manifold, but the turbine is one. These two manifold connects the bypass pipe, and it happens that this pipe is roasted, and often for this reason there was a ignition of the car. This is also a very important moment for which you need to follow, shoot and watch. It manifests itself infrequently, but in order to accomplish this repair, i.e. Restore the previously installed tube, which can be in principle to repair in specialized organizations, or in order to establish it a new one for a good need to dismantle the body from the frame. Some masters are changed without a breakdown of the body, remove the automatic transmission to get to it, because it is installed in the back and change.
To drive the gas distribution mechanism on the engine 2.7 TD used the timing belt. The Rules for replacing the timing belt is 120 00 - 130,000 km in running. Despite the fact that the first regulation was once every 168,000 km, the manufacturer left these numbers, because the belt breaks occurred on this mileage. The fuel pump of high pressure (TNVD) of which was mentioned above the engine installed in the rear part is driven by a similar belt, respectively, the rules for replacing the timing belt implies more, and the replacement of the TNVD belt, and in addition it also implies the replacement of the belt Auxiliary aggregates. In case you do not have the opportunity to replace all these three belts, then change at least one timing belt, thereby configuring yourself from its cliff and premature failure of the engine. If the TNTVD belt breaks, the engine will simply stall on the go. Yes, it will be unpleasant, it will be a tow truck, but, as a rule, there are no such situations. If you break up the auxiliary unit drive belt, here it is necessary to understand that the auxiliary units will stand, such as, charging generator, the hydraulic switch pump, you will experience inconvenience due to the fact that the steering will be spinning much more effort, you will have charging, on the panel The devices will light up the fault indication. But with all this, the engine will not suffer. Therefore, once every 120,000 - 130,000 km, the timing belt must be changed.
One of the problems of this engine is the front seal of the crankshaft. It happens often so that at low negative temperatures, as a rule, from -10 degrees, after the night parking you run the engine, this gland is extruded, and almost the entire oil volume follows from the engine. The solution to this problem exists. The oil pump of a new sample with a modified landing place is released under the gland. As the service practice shows, in case you have occurred extrusion of the front kettle, install a new pump, a new gland and problems with this no longer arises. In addition, the pump of a new sample has increased productivity.
The worst thing that is in the 2.7 TD engine is a malfunction of a crank-connecting mechanism, i.e. Fault of a piston group. Two problems: the first is the turn of the liners, the second - the breakdown of the crankshaft in half in the literal sense of the word.
Plant Manufacturer does not provide details of this short block. Short block is a block of cylinders assembly, i.e. Block, pistons, crankshaft, connecting rods. The new short unit assembly is about 550,000 rubles (for November 2017). We carry out repairs short blocks, but you need to understand that such repairs will cost about 200,000 - 400,000 rubles, depending on your particular case. This is a huge minus of this engine. The solution is also there. But back 190 hp It is subject to minimal tax and consumption of this engine is somewhere about 10 liters per 100 km.
